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  • Don6218
    1500 Post Veteran
    • Jun 2009
    • 1834
    • Oshawa ON

    #1

    Train not on Original Route

    Hello, I was curious to know if there is a way of avoiding the dreaded "Train not on Original Route" with the subsequent application of the "Emergency" brake setting?

    Specifically when having to use Manual mode for switching, on the Allegheny Rails activity "BLE_P_01B" where you have to pick up your player train, put it into the station, wait for a passing AI freight then run around the train to be in the correct position to leave the station. Using the Tab for Permission doesn't seem to work, it says "No signal on Path" in the track viewer then the Emer brake!

    I realize this is a pre-OR activity, but this does seem to be a common thing when running these activities, when switching is required. Is there a way to preserve the "Automatic" settings in OR? Rather than having to switch back and forth to Manual?

    Thanks for any assistance on this. There are a number of very fine, but older Routes & Activities that I would like to run without getting a headache and getting frustrated. Old age sucks!!

    Oh yeah, I just upgraded to X3542.
  • buttercup
    2500 Post Veteran
    • Nov 1999
    • 2535
    • .

    #2
    Try shift+tab?
    Regards,

    Eric

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    • Don6218
      1500 Post Veteran
      • Jun 2009
      • 1834
      • Oshawa ON

      #3
      Originally posted by buttercup
      Try shift+tab?
      Ok, so what does that do and when should I try doing it?

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      • Stuz
        Senior Member
        • Nov 1999
        • 171
        • .New Zealand

        #4
        The only way I have found that works is to remember to change to manual for switching and then back to Auto after switching to get back into the activity. Being in manual during switching does not seem to effect AI operations.
        Regards Stu

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        • crstagg
          4500 Post Veteran


          • Nov 1999
          • 4885
          • Huntsville, AL
          • Texan
          • MSOR

          #5
          Originally posted by Don6218
          Originally posted by buttercup
          Try shift+tab?
          Ok, so what does that do and when should I try doing it?
          RTFM Page 135
          Charles

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          • peterman
            Senior Member

            • May 2010
            • 151
            • Great White North
            • ORTS

            #6
            Originally posted by crstagg
            RTFM Page 135
            Why read the manual ???... it's right there on your desktop in a folder that Open Rails conveniently placed there , called "OpenRailsKeyboard"

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            • Vince
              6500 Post Veteran

              • Nov 1999
              • 6961
              • Mohave

              #7
              Also realize while in manual mode that running through a closed switch will result in emergency air dump. Off path is ok as long as you get back on path before switching back to auto signal mode.
              If act was set up with rev points then manual mode may not be needed, but that depends on how the act was coded.

              regards,
              ............Vince ..............
              ...... Author NECv4 .......
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              ...... Eschew Obsfucation ......

              On the The Statue of Liberty in New York Harbor there is a Tablet. On it is written:
              "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
              the wretched refuse of your teeming shore, send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
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              • Don6218
                1500 Post Veteran
                • Jun 2009
                • 1834
                • Oshawa ON

                #8
                Yes it does seem to depend on the particular coding the author used.

                At this point, I was able to V E R Y Cautiously proceed in Auto-Mode, being V E R Y careful at the Reverse points to not go past them. I have the Passenger Coaches moved to the platform, uncoupled and am proceeding towards yet another reverse point, with an Amber Signal and the points thrown correctly. This is still in Auto-Mode, I proceed to the Rev-Point and start the run down the main to the next Rev-Point to recouple to the train. While doing this, I am now facing a RED Signal just before the Rev-Point, and now there is the AI freight bearing down on my engine! It is facing a RED signal as well but it barrels on through.

                BTW, this route uses Semaphore Signals, if that has any bearing on what is taking place.

                I am going to restart the act again, but this time I will wait for the freight to pass before venturing out to the main through that Rev-Point.

                Whew! This is taking it's toll! I am 26 minutes behind schedule and still have to couple up to my train! Just like Amtrak!!

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                • Don6218
                  1500 Post Veteran
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 1834
                  • Oshawa ON

                  #9
                  Now, after restarting this activity again, I have now progressed under Auto-Mode all the way to the end of the outbound platform track to the turnout to the main. I have a red and the turnout is closed to me and clear for the main for the AI Freight that is in it's way.

                  Now, pressing "Shft-Tab" I get "OK to Proceed"!! The switch is closed AND there is a freight coming on that track!

                  ************************************************** ************************************************** **********

                  After waiting for the freight to pass, the switch opens for me and the semaphore changes to "Proceed" (Amber). As soon as I cross onto the turnout points I get the Emergency Apply and the message "Not on original route" again! This is all happening while in Auto-Mode.

                  This is becoming frustrating. Back into Manual Mode, to clear the Emer-Apply, I go into the OR Route Display and set up a clear route, but every time I try to switch back to "auto-mode".

                  I am going to set up a route, in manual mode and proceed all the way (in the clear) to the next station stop, Right-Hand-Running to see if that changes anything.

                  The first part of this Activity ran without a problem, just with all this switching has it seemed screwed up.

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