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  • Mark15
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    • Oct 2015
    • 60

    #1

    Camera: Free View

    Is there any way to delete free views? I know you can cycle stored free views but can you clear them? Couldn't find anything on this anywhere.
  • R. Steele
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    • Feb 2013
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    #2
    Interesting question. I had assumed* that the OR "8" camera views were dumped when the sessions ended.
    Searched manual and could not find anything.

    *(...and as my brother says "You know what they say about assuming? Makes, an ass of u and me.")
    Last edited by R. Steele; 05-16-2016, 13:18.
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    • cjakeman
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2010
      • 137

      #3
      Originally posted by Mark15
      Is there any way to delete free views? I know you can cycle stored free views but can you clear them? Couldn't find anything on this anywhere.
      No, I'm afraid not.

      Actually, I don't remember anyone asking to delete them since I added them several years back. Wouldn't be difficult to do, though we are short of key combinations these days.

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      • Mark15
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        • Oct 2015
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        #4
        Originally posted by cjakeman
        No, I'm afraid not.

        Wouldn't be difficult to do, though we are short of key combinations these days.

        Chris
        OR Dev
        That was my thought process and why I was surprised the option to delete a view wasn't there. You still have a few keys open. Not sure what intentions you may already have for those keys in the future. I've currently assigned Shift+8 to key 7 for example, think 7 was completely free so now the set/cycle free view camera keys are next to each other.

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        • Vince
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          • Nov 1999
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          #5
          How about a question when exiting . . .'Delete Free View Cache?' Yes/No
          Save the keys!

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          • Mark15
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            • Oct 2015
            • 60

            #6
            Originally posted by Vince
            How about a question when exiting . . .'Delete Free View Cache?' Yes/No
            Save the keys!

            regards,

            Are you suggesting after you exit OR?
            I find sometimes you are testing things, you need to delete stored views right away. Sometimes you're maybe stopping at certain locations on your route exploring and you may like to free view before you move on. Doing these sorts of things you can accumulate stored points, many of them and quickly. Needs to be an instant way to just delete the stored view you are currently on. Shift+8 does cycle, Ctrl+8 resets normal camera views. Ideally, I think it would be perfect if Ctrl+8 deleted the free view you were currently on. No extra keys required and makes Ctrl+8 a logical reset/delete camera view command.
            Last edited by Mark15; 05-18-2016, 00:07.

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            • muskokaandtahoe
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              • Apr 2003
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              #7
              Is there any reason why two letter codes should not be used? That would be a major increase in key combinations for new commands. Set up language lists and we English speakers could do BR+ and BR- for brakes, HL+ and HL- for headlights, etc. etc, and in some other language the right keys for their words.
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              • cjakeman
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                • Mar 2010
                • 137

                #8
                I'm glad you are finding the stored views so useful.

                Originally posted by Mark15
                Needs to be an instant way to just delete the stored view you are currently on. Shift+8 does cycle, Ctrl+8 resets normal camera views. Ideally, I think it would be perfect if Ctrl+8 deleted the free view you were currently on. No extra keys required and makes Ctrl+8 a logical reset/delete camera view command.
                Does anyone have any objection to Mark15's suggestion?
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                • R. Steele
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by cjakeman
                  I'm glad you are finding the stored views so useful.
                  Does anyone have any objection to Mark15's suggestion?
                  That would only delete the free view you are currently on. Since there can be more than one free view stored (correct?) what about the rest of them? I thought the original post referred to all free views stored.

                  I really have no problem with it. I use Ctrl+8 all the time when I get the other camera views tangled up.
                  Cheers, Gerry
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                  • Mark15
                    Member
                    • Oct 2015
                    • 60

                    #10
                    Originally posted by R. Steele
                    That would only delete the free view you are currently on. Since there can be more than one free view stored (correct?) what about the rest of them? I thought the original post referred to all free views stored.

                    I really have no problem with it. I use Ctrl+8 all the time when I get the other camera views tangled up.
                    Yes, it would only delete the current view, you might not like them all deleted at one time. An example is I have set up free view so I look like I'm standing right next to the train and watching as the start of the train to last carriage passes me by. Once all the carriages have passed, that view no longer serves a purpose, you could Ctrl+8 (delete) it.
                    I may also have set up say a second free view that watches the train from a high vantage point which allows you to see it disappear into the distance. This view I may like kept for a longer period of time as the train is still in the scene so would not want both views gone at the same time.
                    You may also like to keep certain free views as you travel to create photographic screenshots with no train visible at a later time. You could leave the free view you wish to use for this and just go back and mess around with photographic screenshots after you have completed your actual train simming and the view will still be there.
                    Many ways to use free view.

                    As for deleting via Ctrl+8. The way I would see it working, you delete the current view, it defaults to the next not deleted view. You want that one gone too, hit Ctrl+8 again. It would be a very fast method of removing free views even if you have many of them and will also allow you to preview the view you are actually about to delete before you delete it. If you don't want a free view gone, you simply Shift+8 to bypass it to the next free view.

                    In practice I think it would work in a very logical fashion.

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                    • Mark15
                      Member
                      • Oct 2015
                      • 60

                      #11
                      Originally posted by cjakeman
                      I'm glad you are finding the stored views so useful.
                      I'm still finding my way around OR that's for certain but it's an excellent program well beyond just the free views! Great work to everyone involved! Thank you!
                      Last edited by Mark15; 05-22-2016, 22:21.

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