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  • ak3221
    Senior Member
    • May 2010
    • 507
    • Oklahoma

    #1

    Floating tracks

    The other day I loaded into open rails and all of my routes were messed up. The track was floating above the ground. I was able to reinstall some and they worked fine. Is there away I can fix this issue without having to go back and redownload/reinstall my other routes?

    And I have one route that all of the scenery works,but there is no track even after reinstalling.

    I'm running Windows 10 and have a nvida graphics card.
    -side note I did a reinstall of msts and before it won't work,but now it does.
  • baldwin
    6000 Post Veteran


    • Nov 1999
    • 6358
    • Chippenham, Wiltshire, UK.
    • ORTS

    #2
    Track, even in MSTS is not right on the ground, it floats a little bit above. Not noticed any different in Open Rails. Perhaps a screenshot or two, and a copy of the OR log file might help. As you did a reinstall of MSTS, and you have a route with missing track, have you also installed everything else that makes MSTS tick such as Xtracks and NewRoads etc.
    Beer is not a matter of life or death, it is much more serious than that.

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    • ak3221
      Senior Member
      • May 2010
      • 507
      • Oklahoma

      #3
      I'll post some pics tonight.
      I have installed:
      Xtrack
      New roads
      Msbin

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      • ak3221
        Senior Member
        • May 2010
        • 507
        • Oklahoma

        #4
        Thx for quick reply

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        • ak3221
          Senior Member
          • May 2010
          • 507
          • Oklahoma

          #5
          here are some pics of the floating track






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          • Vince
            6500 Post Veteran

            • Nov 1999
            • 6961
            • Mohave

            #6
            The best path forward and not involving guessing or speculation would be to check the route with the Route_Riter tests. Specifically the Route Utils Tab and the TSUtils Tab.
            Get RR here: http://www.rstools.info/downloads-1.html
            Refer to the Route Riter Help section . . .seperate download!

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            • baldwin
              6000 Post Veteran


              • Nov 1999
              • 6358
              • Chippenham, Wiltshire, UK.
              • ORTS

              #7
              That looks like the route has some larger than usual tiles. Unfortunately at the moment Open Rails does not read those to draw terrain. Which route is it?.
              Beer is not a matter of life or death, it is much more serious than that.

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              • ak3221
                Senior Member
                • May 2010
                • 507
                • Oklahoma

                #8
                The pics are from the MSTS Kansas City Southern Meridian Speedway Rout downloaded from here. It was working fine. But the messed up tracks was even my SLI BNSF Scenic my maple leaf routes all looked like this. I went back reinstalled msts, open rails, xtrack, new roads, mstsbin and most of my routes. They seem to be working but there are some freeware routes that are still not working correctly.

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                • eolesen
                  9500 Post Veteran and Administrator



                  • Dec 2002
                  • 9583
                  • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
                  • English, SQL
                  • General

                  #9
                  The first two shots from ORTS look like the terrain files are clobbered. And I don't think that gets picked up on by TSUtils or Route_Riter.

                  If you say this is happening in all your routes, perhaps the shapefiles were altered to lower the axis, thus raising the tracks? Reinstalling XTracks would fix that.
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                  • baldwin
                    6000 Post Veteran


                    • Nov 1999
                    • 6358
                    • Chippenham, Wiltshire, UK.
                    • ORTS

                    #10
                    I see from the first post that MSTS was reinstalled. I am just wondering how it was reinstalled. I recall from way back when I first started using MSTS that if the reinstall was into the same original folder the install removed a lot of files from existing non-default routes which affected terrain in this manner. This then required a reinstall of each route affected.

                    The track is not actually floating, it just has no terrain under it.
                    Beer is not a matter of life or death, it is much more serious than that.

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                    • ak3221
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 507
                      • Oklahoma

                      #11
                      I reinstalled w/administrator into program file 86 on c drive. I'm pretty sure it installed right because I'm starting to put routes back on that were messed up and they work. Just a handful that worked fine before are still not working properly now.

                      I haven't had a chance to use route riter or the tsutils but will try when I get home.

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                      • NickelPlateCab
                        New Member
                        • May 2015
                        • 11

                        #12
                        It is never a good idea to install into the program files folder, especially with an OS where you cannot reasonably manage what the OS might do to itself through periodic updates and no control other than turning them off completely.

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                        • ak3221
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2010
                          • 507
                          • Oklahoma

                          #13
                          Where else would you put it? That was the default path
                          C drive/Program 86/Microsoft games/train Simulator
                          I can see how system updates could cause issues. But I was in game got out then got back on a little while later. And was messed up After it had been running fine. Didn't install anything just back in and it was messed up.

                          I mean really everything is working after being reinstalled. Just have a couple that are giving me issues

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                          • baldwin
                            6000 Post Veteran


                            • Nov 1999
                            • 6358
                            • Chippenham, Wiltshire, UK.
                            • ORTS

                            #14
                            The two program files folders have pretty strict controls placed on them from within the operating system. This has been the situation ever since Vista was released. It is recommended that MSTS be installed outside of the program files folders by using the Windows7 tutorial at http://msts.steam4me.net/tutorials/installing_msts.html . I have never installed MSTS in any program files folder from day one.
                            Last edited by baldwin; 05-05-2016, 14:44.
                            Beer is not a matter of life or death, it is much more serious than that.

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