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  • joebandit
    Member
    • Aug 2001
    • 45
    • Mangum, Ok

    #16
    Prototype train length is decided by the length of available passing sidings and priority of the train.Most of the unit trains I have seen probably are around 125, also have to consider total weight of the train.

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    • eolesen
      9500 Post Veteran and Administrator



      • Dec 2002
      • 9583
      • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
      • English, SQL
      • General

      #17
      I personally don't see why you'd need to have a higher limit. 9000 ft trains just aren't all that prototypical.

      Even with 34' ore jennies, there's a practical limit to the weight and ability to stop something that long & heavy, let alone have the track available to bring it into a yard.
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      • conductorchris
        2500 Post Veteran

        • Mar 2010
        • 2905
        • Vermont
        • General

        #18
        Ha! Tell that to E.Hunter Harrison! His new train size standard seems to be 10,000 feet.
        And the previous comment about train size being limited by available passing sidings also does not seem to apply lately in the real world.

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        • solarnet
          Senior Member

          • Nov 2003
          • 157
          • LaVista, Nebraska, USA.
          • General

          #19
          Originally posted by joebandit
          The limit can be raised, any suggested length? 200 maybe?
          Doesn't matter to me. I rarely run anything more that 120. But I can see the need. If I were to vote, I think 200-300 is plenty.
          Richard Rasmussen
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          • PXSE
            Senior Member
            • May 2011
            • 144

            #20
            I agree with 300. Longer trains are being run today, now that NS and CSX are using DPU to combine trains to hold down costs and fend off takeovers. And they operate them regardless of how well they fit in sidings over the road. FEC was a common operator of 17,000+ feet long trains.

            And didn't somebody do up some early roadrailers that counted both the trailer and wheelset as separate cars? A 75 car train of those roadrailers would hit the 150 limit. You never know how people may design multi-part rolling stock in the future.

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            • MsSheare
              1500 Post Veteran
              • Nov 2010
              • 1586
              • Brough UK

              #21
              I say 300 should be the very top limit. Most of my trains are limited in size and the max i have ran is 130 The AI traffic and scenery load really affects my frame rate. So I would not see any reason to go past 130 personally.

              But I also could not get into just watching a 300 Unit Trains running by.

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              • eolesen
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                • Dec 2002
                • 9583
                • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
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                #22
                Fair point on multi-part rolling stock.

                Since it's not a limitation on the part of ORTS or MSTS, and both Charles and Joe are aware of the desire for changes, let's wrap things up.
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                • superheatedsteam
                  Senior Member


                  • Jun 2004
                  • 764
                  • Perth, WA, Australia.

                  #23
                  Consider that not only in Australia, but railways in South Africa, Brazil, China and Russia also run train lengths that exceed the 300 upper limit proposed by many in this thread.

                  If you must make a limit then 700 would cover every train length run on this planet to date.

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                  • crstagg
                    4500 Post Veteran


                    • Nov 1999
                    • 4885
                    • Huntsville, AL
                    • Texan
                    • MSOR

                    #24
                    If anyone wanting more than a 150 car consist will send me a PM with your email address and your ConBuilder serial number, I will reply with an email containing a URL to a ZIP containing a ConBuilder executable that creates longer consists.
                    Last edited by crstagg; 04-02-2016, 07:31. Reason: Opened offer to all, not just posters to this thread.
                    Charles

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                    • Lurker57
                      Member
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 57
                      • Iggesund, Sweden

                      #25
                      Be warned, never give away your serial numbers. Do you give away your account number to anyone? May not be a danger in this case but be careful.
                      Last edited by Lurker57; 04-02-2016, 12:59.

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                      • crstagg
                        4500 Post Veteran


                        • Nov 1999
                        • 4885
                        • Huntsville, AL
                        • Texan
                        • MSOR

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Lurker57
                        Be warned, never give away your serial numbers. Do you give away your account number to anyone? May not be a danger in this case but be careful.
                        Obviously you don't understand how the ConBuilder Serial Number works. We gave them the SN to begin with so by telling us their SN in a PRIVATE MESSAGE or in an EMAIL is only identifying themselves to us. We already know what their SN is. But, yes, don't give it away to someone else. If someone else tried to use another's SN we would identify that and no longer support the one that gave their SN away.
                        Charles

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                        • joebandit
                          Member
                          • Aug 2001
                          • 45
                          • Mangum, Ok

                          #27
                          Attention Conbuilder supporters, login to Our forum for a question on this limit thing.

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