Cripple Creek Error TRK TDB

[tomsierrarr]

HELP
Can anyone tell me how to fix this routes activities and explore route when you start at COLO SP. When I run the route in in Open Rail 1.0.1.3095 it stops. I ran a test and got the below report. Any help Thank you Tomsierra
Mode
= Test
Route = Cripple Creek Railroads
Activity = CSCC Colo Sp ATSF Depot-Crip Creek Psgr. (F:\Train Simulator 6 Narrow Gauge\ROUTES\CrippleCreekRailroads\ACTIVITIES\CSCC Colo Sp ATSF Depot-Crip Creek Psgr..act)
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Loading TRK TDB

Warning: Track node 9 pin 0 has invalid link to track node 0 in F:\Train Simulator 6 Narrow Gauge\ROUTES\CrippleCreekRailroads\CrippleCreekRai lroads.tdb:line 97

SIGCFG DAT ACT RDB CARSPAWN SIGSCR W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats)

Warning: Invalid crossover : indices 18 and 19 : equal section : 1267

Warning: Ignored invalid track node 9 pin [0,0] link to track node 0

Information: BoilerEfficiencyGrateAreaLBpFT2toX - default information read from SteamTables

Information: InitialPressureDropRatioRpMtoX - default information read from SteamTables

Information: BurnRateSteamToCoalLbspH - default information read from SteamTables

Warning: Grate Area not found in ENG file and has been set to 8.38858 m^2

Warning: Evaporation Area not found in ENG file and has been set to 419.429 m^2

Warning: Boiler Volume not found in ENG file, or doesn't appear to be a valid figure, and has been set to 543.9395 Ft^3

Information: BackPressureIHPtoAtmPSI (Superheated) - default information read from SteamTables

Information: BoilerEfficiencyGrateAreaLBpFT2toX - default information read from SteamTables

Information: InitialPressureDropRatioRpMtoX - default information read from SteamTables

Information: BurnRateSteamToCoalLbspH - default information read from SteamTables

Warning: Grate Area not found in ENG file and has been set to 8.38858 m^2

Warning: Evaporation Area not found in ENG file and has been set to 419.429 m^2

Warning: Boiler Volume not found in ENG file, or doesn't appear to be a valid figure, and has been set to 543.9395 Ft^3

Information: BackPressureIHPtoAtmPSI (Superheated) - default information read from SteamTables

Error: ORTS.Processes.ThreadHangException: Thread 'Loader Process' has hung; the consistent stack trace is shown below:
at ORTS.Train.SetRoutePath(AIPath aiPath, Signals orgSignals) in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Physics\Train. cs:line 11543
at ORTS.AITrain.CreateRoute(Boolean usePosition) in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\AI\AITrain.cs: line 181
at ORTS.AI.CreateAITrainDetail(Service_Definition sd, Traffic_Service_Definition trfDef, Boolean isInitialPlayerTrain) in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\AI\AI.cs:line 804
at ORTS.Simulator.InitializeAPPlayerTrain() in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Simulator\Simu lator.cs:line 888
at ORTS.Simulator.InitializeAPTrains(LoaderProcess loader) in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Simulator\Simu lator.cs:line 376
at ORTS.Simulator.Start(LoaderProcess loader) in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Simulator\Simu lator.cs:line 269
at ORTS.Processes.GameStateRunActivity.Test(UserSetti ngs settings, String[] args) in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Processes\Game StateRunActivity.cs:line 552
at ORTS.Processes.GameStateRunActivity.<>c__DisplayCl ass8.<Load>b__3() in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Processes\Game StateRunActivity.cs:line 169
at ORTS.Processes.GameStateRunActivity.Load() in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Processes\Game StateRunActivity.cs:line 189
at ORTS.Processes.LoaderProcess.Load() in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Processes\Load erProcess.cs:line 155
at ORTS.Processes.LoaderProcess.DoLoad() in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Processes\Load erProcess.cs:line 136
at ORTS.Processes.LoaderProcess.LoaderThread() in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Processes\Load erProcess.cs:line 107
at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart_Context( Object state)
at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionCon text executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state)
at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart()

at ORTS.ORTraceListener.TraceEvent(TraceEventCache eventCache, String source, TraceEventType eventType, Int32 id, String format, Object[] args) in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Common\ErrorLo gger.cs:line 124
at System.Diagnostics.TraceInternal.TraceEvent(TraceE ventType eventType, Int32 id, String format, Object[] args)
at System.Diagnostics.Trace.TraceError(String format, Object[] args)
at ORTS.ORTraceListener.WriteLine(Object o) in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Common\ErrorLo gger.cs:line 206
at System.Diagnostics.TraceInternal.WriteLine(Object value)
at System.Diagnostics.Trace.WriteLine(Object value)
at ORTS.Processes.WatchdogProcess.WatchdogThread() in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Stable\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Processes\Watc hdogProcess.cs:line 131
at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart_Context( Object state)
at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionCon text executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state)
at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart()

[slipperman]

Hi Tom,
I've just tried to run the Cripple Creek route with Open Rails (X3322) under Windows 7 64 bit.

There are 5 activities which don't run, and cause OR to redisplay the menu after about 2 minutes. They are :

CSCC Colo Sp ATSF Depot-Crip Creek Psgr
CSCC Colo Sp D&RG Depot-Crip Creek Psgr
CSCC Colo Sp to Victor Freight
MT Colo Sp ATSF Depot-CripCreek Psgr
MT Colo Sp D&RG Depot-CripCreek Psgr

I've not been able to determine the cause of the problem; maybe the fact that 4 out of the 5 mention the ATSF or D&RG Depot might point to something odd!

Cheers,
Ged

EDIT : Further testing shows that using the paths which start at ATSF and D&RG Depot also fail in Explore mode, but the CSCC Colo Sp to Victor Freight path starts OK in Explore.

[dwkarch]

I may be on to something. Those 5 paths are the only ones that go past this reverse loop from right to left. In MSTS, they go by without regard to the loop, even though the path shows the impossible route shown. I never could figure out why it shows as it does. Perhaps Open Rails cannot handle it. In any case, there is no way to change the path in MSTS. Can you see the image above the Navy Jack?

EDIT: The loop is green, should be black. The straight away is black, should be green. And I think that's a reverse point mark at the right switch.

loop.jpg

[rober]

Howdy

I had the same trouble as Ged, OR would not load, kept reverting back to the Menu.
I opened up Trackviewer,loaded in the path and examined it to see if it looked OK(it did), so saved it,
overwriting the original. It now loads and runs, have only run for about 20mins.
Tried the next act, couldn't get passed the menu, so did the Trackviewer thing again, it is now running.
So, if this continues to work, an easy fix,but I don't know why!


Cheers Bob

[baldwin]

Thanks for that Bob, works for me as well.

Mervyn

[slipperman]

Hi,
Well done, Bob That was a great find!!
By the way, it works for me as well; also, those activities still work in MSTS!

Comparing the state of a path file before and after running Track Viewer, it shows that the TrPathNodes have been renumbered (last parameter) into rising sequence (they were random), starting from zero. Judging by the second parameter, the lines are still in their original order. Also, the TrackPDPs have been resorted. They appear to be, mainly, in rising sequence of the first parameter, but odd ones seem to be out of that order. I haven't run any activity to its conclusion yet, so don't know if there are any other effects.

Cheers,
Ged

[geepster775]

That darned Open Rails, not allowing 'MSTS crazy unexplainables' a free pass to slide on through.....

[tomsierrarr]

rober your fix "I opened up Trackviewer,loaded in the path and examined it to see if it looked OK(it did), so saved it,
overwriting the original" Worked great. I am working on putting electric lines on the trolley lines. Thanks for the fix Tomsierrarr