Missing engines in activity.

[oldgreyowl]

I posted this originally in the MSTS activity board, until I discovered it was an OR problem. I am writing an activity for the Marias Pass5, and whilst testing I noticed that some, not all engines are missing from ai consists.Went over to ElvasTower, but didn't really understand what they were talking about.
I realised that the logfile is the thing to look at, but where do I start. In the attached logfile, which I have started editing by removing info relative to the route until I got to the engines.

There are several engines mentioned and I will try to paint a picture of what is. There is the player consist and 5 ai consists.

Player engines #9258 #9276 #3144 and show in the activity.
ai consist 1 engine #7834 is missing, but is the third of 3, the other 2 show.
ai consist 2 engines #8304 #8160 #8011 all missing but followed by the correct number of autoracks.
ai consist 3 engines #5622 #9286 #4063 all showing.

I have edited the logfile to be able to attach. many thanks charlie.

[R. Steele]

While it could be related to some memory issues/shape files not rendering, I think it may be the shape files are missing, have errors, or if these are freeware locos that the required work on the s file has not been done. The log is registering errors in the shape files.

I think the pack you are using is sd402pak.zip, from 2002. It'll take someone familiar with these files and knowledge how to fix them, I'd just be guessing, but that would not stop me from tinkering with them, if they were recent enough. At 2002 I would just scrap them and find something newer.

Most folks are recommending using models no earlier than 2005...I try to keep within the last 5 to 7 years. The work from 2002 just does not measure up to the work being done now, no reflection on the earlier work, just a progression of skill has happened, especially in texturing. Some the contemporary stuff is just excellent. And no more square wheels.

[crstagg]

I posted this originally in the MSTS activity board, until I discovered it was an OR problem. I am writing an activity for the Marias Pass5, and whilst testing I noticed that some, not all engines are missing from ai consists.Went over to ElvasTower, but didn't really understand what they were talking about.
I realised that the logfile is the thing to look at, but where do I start. In the attached logfile, which I have started editing by removing info relative to the route until I got to the engines.

There are several engines mentioned and I will try to paint a picture of what is. There is the player consist and 5 ai consists.

Player engines #9258 #9276 #3144 and show in the activity.
ai consist 1 engine #7834 is missing, but is the third of 3, the other 2 show.
ai consist 2 engines #8304 #8160 #8011 all missing but followed by the correct number of autoracks.
ai consist 3 engines #5622 #9286 #4063 all showing.

I have edited the logfile to be able to attach. many thanks charlie.

In CON #1 is there a space where the third engine should be or is the second engine coupled to the first wagon?

Have you checked to make sure that the ENG file for XXXXXXX7834 is in your Trainset folder? When you try to run a Consist and one of the items WAG or ENG is not in the Trainset MSTS will choke but OR just displays the consist w/o the missing item.

Also could you attach the entire OR log? The part you posted shows no errors for #7834

[arremm1]

This is a known issue in Open Rails. These files are repaints of the original KUJU SD40-2. There is an error in the shape file (an extra "\") in the Line 81241. When I first tried OR, I tried running a consist with an SD402 that was a repaint of the original model. I could not see the engine, only smoke coming out of nowhere. This fixed it. Oldgrayowl, if you want to PM me, I can send you the correct files.

[R. Steele]

arremm1 jogged my memory, here's the error, you can use shapeviewer to fix it, files appear uncompressed to begin with. The OR log gives the line where the animation section with the errant backslash appears, remove it and the engines will reappear.

anim_node WIPERBLADELEFT1 (
controllers ( 2
tcb_rot ( 5
tcb_key ( 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 )
tcb_key ( 1 0 0 0.382683 0.92388 0 0 0 0 0 )
tcb_key ( 2 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 )
tcb_key ( 3 0 0 0.382683 0.92388 0 0 0 0 0 )
tcb_key ( 4 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 )
)
linear_pos ( 5
linear_key ( 0 -0.13009 -0.357949 0.0030365 )
linear_key ( 1 -0.13009 -0.357949 0.00303654 )
linear_key ( 2 -0.13009 -0.357949 0.00303673 )
linear_key ( 3 -0.13009 -0.357949 0.00303654 )
linear_key ( 4 -0.13009 -0.357949 0.00303673 )\ <---------HERE'S THE ERROR..BACKSLASH DOES NOT BELONG
)

[arremm1]

Yes, the files are uncompressed. So, get Context, open the shape files and edit as needed and the use Shape File Manager to compress the files.

[oldgreyowl]

Thank you gentlemen, I will pick this up tomorrow.

charlie

[oldgreyowl]

Gerry, using your example, I find the following.

im_node WIPERBLADELEFT1 (
controllers ( 2
tcb_rot ( 5
tcb_key ( 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 )
tcb_key ( 1 0 0 0.382683 0.92388 0 0 0 0 0 )
tcb_key ( 2 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 )
tcb_key ( 3 0 0 0.382683 0.92388 0 0 0 0 0 )
tcb_key ( 4 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 )\
)
linear_pos ( 5
linear_key ( 0 -0.13009 -0.357949 0.0030365 )
linear_key ( 1 -0.13009 -0.357949 0.00303654 )
linear_key ( 2 -0.13009 -0.357949 0.00303673 )
linear_key ( 3 -0.13009 -0.357949 0.00303654 )
linear_key ( 4 -0.13009 -0.357949 0.00303673 )

Do I still remove the backslash?

charlie

[baldwin]

Yes. The Kuju update many years ago introduced that error. In MSTS it prevented as s file from being compressed, thus making them easily identifiable. Removing the backslash will allow compression and make it visible in Open rails.

[oldgreyowl]

Thanks, and I certainly agree about the beer here in Sheffield.

charlie