Has anyone ever encountered this problem before?

[Marc87dk]

I wanted to run the hungarian Alföld 6.6 route in Open Rails. Since it comes with files specifically made for OR, I was sure that it would work perfectly after installation.
I already had the Alföld 5 which works just fine.

However, when I open the route in OR, everything looks like this:
alfold.jpg

Any ideas what I am missing here? I installed every single file from the download site. http://alfold.juplo.com/alfold-6/
and my computer has been able to handle "heavy" routes just fine, so its hard for me to believe that this is a graphics problem.

Has anyone tried running this route in in Open Rails?

[slipperman]

Hi Marc,
It's a bit of a long shot, but does the route require you to run a batch file (often called installme.bat)? If so, have you run it?
If you have, do you have a working MSTS installation?

If there is a batch file to be run, it copies all the files it needs from a default MSTS installation.

Also, I don't know whether it applies to v6.6, but v6.5 required you to have 6.0, 6.1, 6.2, 6.3 and 6.4 installed first.

The site is temporarily unavailable, so I can't check.

Cheers,
Ged

[smiljacc18]

It's a beautiful route,I hope it will work and the site gets back up so I can update my old copy.

[geepster775]

I get that sometimes when I toggle back and forth between the dispatcher screen and the sim. After returning to the sim, I only drive along so far before the terrain ends and tracks continue. Other times, I get random rolling stock vanishing from the player consist, even though the consist keeps moving along. Just a dead space where a wag used to be. A save and restore fixes it, though, under all of those circumstances

[OTTODAD]

The first thing anybody should do after having installed a MSTS route into its installed from CDs Train Simulator folder and having run its Instalme.bat, if there is one, then have the Route Riter check it for what it is missing before running it in MSTS or ORTS !

P.S.: Doing a Google for the 6.6 there are many download web sites offering it, none of which saying that previous versions of it are required, that it takes 7 hours to download and most are trying to force other programs to be downloaded too, not offering to decline whatever !

If any web site offers a Train Simulator route then it must include all it needs, including newly added assets, like all routes from my web site do !

I would not touch this route with s barge pole !

[ChrisD]

I would not touch this route with s barge pole !

Otto, please don't be so mad.

Please do not blaim the authors for Your bad/slow internet.

I too, suffer from a slow and expensive internet, but I still have Alföld 6.5 running flawless in OR. (I did not know that they have upgraded to 6.6) I will let You know how I fare when upgrading.

Going from 6.5 to 6.6 is 102 Mb. Why do You want me to d/l several gigs just to get a complete 'first time download'?

If You need a complete 6.6 install, I will be glad to send it to You.

ChrisD

[Marc87dk]

Thanks Chris.

I look forward to hear if it works for you.

[ChrisD]

Alföld 6.6 upgrade is more than 5 Months old. D/L is 102 Mb including a 2 Mb patch.

Sure, I had Alföld 6.5 installed already and 6.6 went on top of that with no issues.

Test run out of Budapest-Keleti went without a hitch.

This is the most dense populated MSTS Route I own. I can not believe how much work the Authors has put into making this.

But, You need to install all files in sequense and ensure that each install WORKS before applying any upgrades.

My Alföld Route Folder is now 2.7 Gigs, just for info.

6.6 upgrade is available from the Dutch MSTS Site.

Good Luck.

ChrisD

[geepster775]

This is not a route problem, but an OR problem and/or a dispatcher screen issue. All you slow-on-the-uptake types who are bickering over batch files can give it a rest.

This is what I get. The "Rescue Me" act from Scenic 2. I just entered the mainline and I am about to enable the dispatcher screen toggle and go over and see how close behind me the AI train is,




After looking on the dispatcher screen, I toggle back over to sim. A few miles down the road, I see the white void appear on the horizon





The black dot underneath always seems to follow the player consist. Its hard to see the black dot in the Alford screens because the yard tracks are wide, but its there.



Arriving at Gold Bar, in the siding, AI slated to go by on the main. The disabled train I am to pick up is in one of the yard tracks. I have stopped short of the switch to the yard tracks on the siding.



As the AI finally approaches, I do a save and restore, and everything is normal once more.

[mword77]

I get the same issues in the same situations. I've found that pausing the game before going to the dispatcher screen seems to stop it from happening, although it does stop the flow of the sim a bit.

[OTTODAD]

Please do not blaim the authors for Your bad/slow internet. I too, suffer from a slow and expensive internet, but I still have Alföld 6.5 running flawless in OR. (I did not know that they have upgraded to 6.6) I will let You know how I fare when upgrading.

Going from 6.5 to 6.6 is 102 Mb. Why do You want me to d/l several gigs just to get a complete 'first time download'?

If You need a complete 6.6 install, I will be glad to send it to You.

Sorry, Chris, but I am not prepared to download whatever in bits and pieces I can not turn my back on while I am doing something else, like those can who download whatever from my web site !

Yes, I would be pleased if you could let me have a download link for a RAR that contains the 6.6 which includes all its predecessors and thanks for doing that !

[eric]

This has nothing to do with batch files from the default routes...

When you have tracks suspended in mid-air, either the terrtex or the tile definitions are missing/corrupted.

Try recopying the TILES and TERRTEX directories from your installation media.

[R. Steele]

I have to doubt if it is an OR problem, since I never have encountered this phenom - with the Scenic Sub or any other route, whether or not I am using the dispatch viewer. (the exception is the situation eric explains in post#12 - I have seen this, and corrected it by finding and fixing the missing parts)
The only time I have seen something similar to this is using the #8 camera for very high altitude views - where I would expect something like this to occur.

[geepster775]

When you have tracks suspended in mid-air, either the terrtex or the tile definitions are missing/corrupted.

Not quite. There is a difference between gray ground from a deliberately missing Terrtex folder, and no ground from some OR computational error. Missing terrtexes still allow your rolling stock to throw a shadow on the ground

[geepster775]

I have a suspicion that the problem lies with the dispatcher screen when you kick it off and ultimately choose to toy with an ONCOMING AI train.

Here is the Rockslide activity from SLI's act pack for Feather River. The player train with UP 3204 will be third to go up the canyon. First is the pig train, then the manifest, then the player's empty grainer.



Both of these AI trains are moving the same direction as the player train, and I can pull up the dispatcher screen and select any train "going my way" and give them a rollby without a problem. I highlight what AI train I want to view (the square turns red), then I click on "See in Game"




Once I select See in Game, and toggle back over to the OR session, camera views 2-8 show the relvant train. Camera 2 shows the Head end of the pig train



Camera 3 shows the rear end of the pig train.



Camera 1 always takes me back to the inside cab view of the player train. All other camera views are still tied to the selected AI train.



I toggle back over to the dispatcher screen, pick AI 2, then toggle back to the game and go to camera view 2 and see the head end of AI 2 catching the reds of AI 1




The moment I toggle to the Dispatcher screen and select and ONCOMING AI train that is presently west of Keddie, all hell breaks loose. This is Camera 4



Camera 5 from the caboose of the oncoming AI. No track. No trees.



Camera 4 again, coming and going. Tracks and trees, no ground.





Usually, it takes a bit of manipulation to get an accurate scenic view of an oncoming AI, but at times, it can be accomplished successfully.

With the earlier shots of the "Rescue Me" act from Scenic 2, note that the player train is running long hood forward in reverse, so technically, the AI that is chasing me is an ONCOMING AI, hence the ground irregularity problemo.

This is an OR/DS screen interaction problem.