Dekosoft

[RICHARD369]

DekoSoft is advertising new OR ready UP locomotives. Has anyone purchased these yet? They say it has a 3D cabview. Is it a true 3D cabview with working controls. Or is it just a 2D view with a #5 inside view like BLW engines?

Rich

[lateagain]

Seems an odd choice to release when there are already other payware models out there? Not tempted I'm afraid as too modern for my taste. BLW's cabs are a useful extra viewpoint but I'd agree don't have the excellent detail in some of his photoreal cabs. Watching the thread with interest but sorry can't help.

[R. Steele]

Yes it's a true 3D cab with working controls and gauges. A good first step for OR. Do not expect something like you would see in Run8 ... OR 3D cabs are no where near that good, yet. Although with talented folks like Dekosoft and others (there are some others working on this) I'm sure they will improve until they surpass or rival the ones currently used by Run8.

[ChrisD]

Well, I bought the $15 Engine pack with the AC4400 and the SD60M.

Here is how it works in Open Rails:

AC4400 CW: NO 2D Cab, 3D CAB OK, levers and dials works. (You must use the keyboard, no mouse action)

SD60M UP #2485: 2D CAB is present but levers and pointers are missing. 3D CAB OK, levers and dials work.

'Dekosoft Trains Mainline Common Files 2015 v.1.0.1' is needed and they promise that the password to unlock this file will be included when You buy the Engine Pack.

However, no password was included, and 3 Days after writing Dekosoft about the problem, there is still no response from Dekosoft.

This results in NO Horn, NO Bell, and NO Enginesound.

If I were You, I would keep my wallet in my pocket, for now.

ChrisD

Edit: This last info is included, in the hope that Dekosoft may follow this thread.

They seem to forget to check their in-box.

[DirtyRam]

I found PW text in the engine folder - dekosoft_up_6axle2

[R. Steele]

Just some corrections...experience may vary due to local atmospheric conditions and barometric pressure, and possibly track alignment:
(sorry, got carried away....)

Well, I bought the $15 Engine pack with the AC4400 and the SD60M.

Here is how it works in Open Rails:

AC4400 CW: NO 2D Cab, 3D CAB OK, levers and dials works. (You must use the keyboard, no mouse action)

Works with RailDriver also, since RD has native support in OR

SD60M UP #2485: 2D CAB is present but levers and pointers are missing. 3D CAB OK, levers and dials work.

SD60M UP #2485 is an AI, however all levers and pointers are present - see attached illustration taken in 2D CAB - there are certainly other 2D CABS out there for this type, however, the 3D CABS may be of interest to people tracking the progress of OR and associated content.

'Dekosoft Trains Mainline Common Files 2015 v.1.0.1' is needed and they promise that the password to unlock this file will be included when You buy the Engine Pack.

However, no password was included, and 3 Days after writing Dekosoft about the problem, there is still no response from Dekosoft.

Included as a text file entitled "up_mainline_passwords.txt" - see other illustration


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[ChrisD]

@R. Steele.

That may be the case for You. You obviously bought another pack.

What I got for my $15 is the following file: upmainline_v1.exe 92.565 Kb

This is an automatic install. I just have to tell where my train.exe is located. (Nothing for me to f.u.....

So???

ChrisD

And, I took a peek at my installed Trainsets, just to make sure. There was a password there, but not the right one.

[crstagg]

I am a beta tester for Dekosoft.

1. SD60 sounds & 'Dekosoft Trains Mainline Common Files 2015 v.1.0.1' required but not provided: 'Dekosoft Trains Mainline Common Files 2015 v.1.0.1' is a separate download just below the "Buy Now" button.
A patch was release yesterday to fix the SD60 problem: http://www.dekosoft.com/trains/wordp...ownloads_id=17 Original release version had SD60 sounds aliased to SD40 sounds in ....\Trainset\Dekosoft_common\SD40\Sounds instead of ...\Trainset\dekosoft_common_2015\sd60m\sounds

2. Mouse control for 3dCabs: That is an OR problem not something Dekosoft can fix before improvements are made to OR.

3. "AC4400 CW: NO 2D Cab," Which AC4400? All the ones I checked have a 2d Cab. Plus ConBuilder reported no errors with the 2dCab files. The AC4400 2dcabs are aliased to ...\Trainset\dekosoft_common_2015\ac4400cw\2dcab\ folder. Check yours. Should be 14 files.

4. " They seem to forget to check their in-box." There is a forum at http://www.dekosoft.com/trains/forum/index.php which has a "Customer Service section" where you can post problems which can be answered by beta testers as well as by Chip. FYI Chip did not get an email I sent him earlier in the week so he may have had an email problem.

5. "SD60M UP #2485: 2D CAB is present but levers and pointers are missing." Mine has leavers and switches. Check your ...\Trainset\dekosoft_common_2015\sd60m\2dcab folder should have 20 files in it.

6. Passwords: I cannot comment as the test versions did not require passwords.

Did I cover all your questions/problems?

[RICHARD369]

I want to thank everyone for their input. Will put it on the "to buy" list which sits beside the "honey do" list .

Rich

[farrmp]

I want to thank everyone for their input. Will put it on the "to buy" list which sits beside the "honey do" list .

Rich

Rich,

You may want to move it a little higher up your list than that. This pack is really a Must Have in my opinion if Open Rails is your main Sim.
EVERYONE--Pay attention to what Charles said above. Chip has clearly marked the Mainline Common Files download that must be downloaded
separately from the Main Engine Pack Download. Everything worked for me and as I said this equipment Looks and Sounds GREAT and Hey,
the price is pretty nice too.

Paul

[crstagg]

DekoSoft is advertising new OR ready UP locomotives. Has anyone purchased these yet? They say it has a 3D cabview. Is it a true 3D cabview with working controls. Or is it just a 2D view with a #5 inside view like BLW engines?

Rich

The answer is no. The 3dCab view is not like a #5 inside view.

You need to read section 15.3 3D cabs in the ORTS manual. An OR 3dCab is displayed by creating a shape and applying skins (ACE files) to the inside walls, console, seats, etc. of the cab and to the outer areas that are visible from inside the cab. As I said earlier in answering ChrisD's questions, there is no capability for mouse control of the leavers and switches. However you can see the levers and switches move as you change their settings with the keyboard. What is gained is the ability to rotate the view like you can with the External views and the #5 view rather than the 90degree turns that you have with the 2dCab. Plus you can move the view point around.

[crstagg]

@R. Steele.

That may be the case for You. You obviously bought another pack.

What I got for my $15 is the following file: upmainline_v1.exe 92.565 Kb

This is an automatic install. I just have to tell where my train.exe is located. (Nothing for me to f.u.....

So???

ChrisD

And, I took a peek at my installed Trainsets, just to make sure. There was a password there, but not the right one.

There were 2 downloads the purchased items and the Common files
This is from the Purchase web site:

[eric]

I seem to remember someone else having the same "didn't read all of the instructions" issue with another Dekosoft release not too long ago...

[ChrisD]

I am a beta tester for Dekosoft.

Thank You for Your help.

1. SD60 sounds & 'Dekosoft Trains Mainline Common Files 2015 v.1.0.1' required but not provided: 'Dekosoft Trains Mainline Common Files 2015 v.1.0.1' is a separate download just below the "Buy Now" button.
A patch was release yesterday to fix the SD60 problem: http://www.dekosoft.com/trains/wordp...ownloads_id=17 Original release version had SD60 sounds aliased to SD40 sounds in ....\Trainset\Dekosoft_common\SD40\Sounds instead of ...\Trainset\dekosoft_common_2015\sd60m\sounds

If You read my previous post, You will know that I have already downloaded the 'Common Files 2015 v.1.0.1..
However the promised password to unlock the file is not included in the download message.

2. Mouse control for 3dCabs: That is an OR problem not something Dekosoft can fix before improvements are made to OR.

I did not complain about this, I just reported what I see..

3. "AC4400 CW: NO 2D Cab," Which AC4400? All the ones I checked have a 2d Cab. Plus ConBuilder reported no errors with the 2dCab files. The AC4400 2dcabs are aliased to ...\Trainset\dekosoft_common_2015\ac4400cw\2dcab\ folder. Check yours. Should be 14 files.

4. " They seem to forget to check their in-box." There is a forum at http://www.dekosoft.com/trains/forum/index.php which has a "Customer Service section" where you can post problems which can be answered by beta testers as well as by Chip. FYI Chip did not get an email I sent him earlier in the week so he may have had an email problem.

5. "SD60M UP #2485: 2D CAB is present but levers and pointers are missing." Mine has leavers and switches. Check your ...\Trainset\dekosoft_common_2015\sd60m\2dcab folder should have 20 files in it.

I only got an .exe file that installs automatically. How am I supposed to know which and how many files is installed in which folders??

6. Passwords: I cannot comment as the test versions did not require passwords.

Did I cover all your questions/problems?

I buy a product and are told that a download link and the needed password to unlock the 'Common Files' will be e-mailed to me.

I did not expect that I had to dig through Forums and Help lines, just to get what I paid for.

If the password were included in my receipt e-mail, none of this would have been necessary.

And, Yes, thank You. I have no further questions.

ChrisD

And to all You 'friendly' posters, that all seems to think that I am a fool for not knowing where to look: Sorry, I will try very hard not to bother You again.

[crstagg]

Thank you Nels for activating the Ignore List feature on this forum.