Activity runs in MSTS but not in Open Rails

[Rich_K]

I downloaded and installed the ogo-wf9-005 for the Whitefish9_RR route. I made the necessary equipment swaps for any locomotives or rolling stock I do not have that are required for this activity.

The activity loads and runs on MSTS with no problem, but I cannot run it in Open Rails. When I try to run this activity Open Rails stalls and eventually crashes back to the first sceen you see when you start Open Rails.

The other activities downloaded for this route run in Open Rails (ogo-wf9-004, etc.)

Any suggestions?

[baldwin]

I think that OR is having a problem arranging the required paths for one or more AI trains. It cannot resolve the logic and eventually times out.

[R. Steele]

I downloaded and installed the ogo-wf9-005 for the Whitefish9_RR route. I made the necessary equipment swaps for any locomotives or rolling stock I do not have that are required for this activity.

The activity loads and runs on MSTS with no problem, but I cannot run it in Open Rails. When I try to run this activity Open Rails stalls and eventually crashes back to the first sceen you see when you start Open Rails.

The other activities downloaded for this route run in Open Rails (ogo-wf9-004, etc.)

Any suggestions?

Can you attach your OR log, please. That will help, also, I believe these activities were written expressly for MSTS, so perhaps they need user adjustment for OR.

[Rich_K]

Log file attachedOpenRailsLog.txt

[90hd]

Same Problem

I downloaded and installed the ogo-wf9-005 for the Whitefish9_RR route. I made the necessary equipment swaps for any locomotives or rolling stock I do not have that are required for this activity.

The activity loads and runs on MSTS with no problem, but I cannot run it in Open Rails. When I try to run this activity Open Rails stalls and eventually crashes back to the first sceen you see when you start Open Rails.

The other activities downloaded for this route run in Open Rails (ogo-wf9-004, etc.)

Any suggestions?

Ive downloaded all 5 of those Activities, 5 Is the only 1 that crashes to desktop im running nothIng but OpenRails.

[Rich_K]

Just for the heck of it I opened the activity in the MST Activity Editor and set the AI traffic file to "none". I then tried to open the activity in question in Open Rails and it started up just fine. Clearly the issue is in the AI traffic somewhere.

[R. Steele]

Try removing each trf service, leaving the rest, perhaps it is only one that is causing the problem.

OR will run with a traffic service removed, just writes a warning to the log.

[slipperman]

Hi,
The problem is with ogo-wf9-005ai03.srv - removing this and leaving the other 3 AI services it runs in OpenRails.

There's something odd about the path associated with this service. In all path files I've checked for other routes, the TRPathNodes are all shown in rising sequence whereas this one is all over the place! Could that be the problem?? This file is attached.

Cheers,
Ged

EDIT : Thanks Gerry - you just beat me to it

[Rich_K]

I can confirm it is the ogo-wf9-005ai03 traffic that causes the problem. I've removed it and the activity starts with no problem.

[R. Steele]

Hi,
The problem is with ogo-wf9-005ai03.srv - removing this and leaving the other 3 AI services it runs in OpenRails.
Cheers,
Ged
EDIT : Thanks Gerry - you just beat me to it

I was guessing, you got the details correct!!!

[90hd]

I can confirm it is the ogo-wf9-005ai03 traffic that causes the problem. I've removed it and the activity starts with no problem.

For me wasn't srv file or traffic file it was the path file wf9-005ai03

[R. Steele]

For me wasn't srv file or traffic file it was the path file wf9-005ai03

Ged's post #8 TRPathNodes are all shown in rising sequence whereas this one is all over the place Could that be the problem - is referring to the path, the pat file was probably corrupted by something. Anything can and will happen when using the msts AE, one the many charms of the software.

[oldgreyowl]

Good morning guys, Sorry to hear of the problems you are experiencing, but we never considered OR when we wrote these activities, didn't realise that OR even has an editor.If any one can throw some light has to how the ai03 path differs, we should be able to ensure that the same problem isn't repeated.

keith

[R. Steele]

Concerning ogo-wf9-005ai03.srv in Activity ogo-wf9-005 for Whitefish9:
The path for that service has a reverse point in a loop. I rewrote the path removing the reverse point, just had the path go around the loop and out to the same end point as in the original path. That solved it, activity now opens in OR.

Of course, I do not know the intent of having the reverse point in the original path, and I cannot see why it should not be processed by OR - need someone with more expertise in the OR path logic - however, the AI starts and ends up in the same place, and AFAIK no other traffic is affected by this path change.

Attached pic shows NEW path with arrow pointing to approximate location of reverse point in old path. AI original went around loop in counterclosewise and reversed back along same part of loop to end point. Now AI goes around loop in clockwise direction (no reverse) and ends at same point as in original.

OGO_AI3_Path.jpg

[R. Steele]

Good morning guys, Sorry to hear of the problems you are experiencing, but we never considered OR when we wrote these activities, didn't realise that OR even has an editor.If any one can throw some light has to how the ai03 path differs, we should be able to ensure that the same problem isn't repeated. keith

Keith, no full fledged editors for OR, yet! Activities do work, AI timing usually has to be changed for OR. Adjusted start time of ogo-wf9-005ai01 30 seconds earlier and it is already heading towards player, otherwise it will wait until player passes before starting its run. Meet with AI3 is very good (see attached pic). Good work, nice activity.
(using a mixed era of engines...some SP stuff and BLWs' new GP30s.)

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