"Open Rails for Dummies"

[ronfalt]

Thanks James, gave it a try, still no go. As much as I accept progress, might have to stick with MSTS* exclusively if I (we) can't get things ironed out.
* still does what its supposed to.
Ron

[R. Steele]

... spelling osculate instead of oscillate... I always give the new guy a brake ...

Would that be a composition brake or an iron break? Just being a wiseguy, pay no attention to the laughter behind the curtain.

[crstagg]

Ron,

You have not given much information to analyze your problem. By your Post #16 I am assuming that you followed the directions that Darter 7 gave in post #15 and it still did not get your brakes released. Would you try the following? Use a default (Came with MSTS) consist. Follow the directions in post #15 then touch the F5 key then Shift-F5 three times and make a screen capture. (PrintScreen Key) Open the OpenRailsLog.txt file on your desktop to see where OR saves Screen Capture. Then post the screen capture here and a copy of the OpenRailsLog.txt file.

Everyone else that have posted here and at ET have found that the Shift / get their brakes released. If nothing else using the F5 then ShiftF5 three time will bring up a HUD that you can watch the brakes release and pressure to build up.

BTW see http://www.elvastower.com/forums/ind...brake-release/ about how many ENG files have settings that slow break release.

[ronfalt]

Thanks Charles, will give it a go when time permits... over the weekend.
Ron

[markus1996]

True, but the bare bones, unmodified, Open Rails download, does not have randomly assigned key assignments. The OP is a NEW user to OR, and I seriously doubt that the OP changed his keyboard layout. So in this case, the manual saying to check the keyboard layout, if perfectly correct, as EVERY download of OR from their site, comes with the same keyboard assignment. Keyboard layouts may be different, but here in the USA, most every keyboard has the same keys. F keys are all common, they come with standard issue keyboard alpha numeric layout as has been standard for well over 70 years. Most all come with the 9 key numeric pad.

In principle, yes. However, this holds only true for the keyboard layout (think language - English uses a different layout then German!) on which it was created. On my German layout, things don´t work out that way, because some keys are exchanged over the English one, or have a totally different function.

Cheers, Markus

[ronfalt]

Thank you all involved in their responses. I have come to the conclusion that my computer may not be adequate enough to "power' Open Rails. Did it install properly, yes. Has any/ all of the suggestions worked, no... including keyboard functions(F1) Had to get them elsewhere. None the less, this "lesson in futility" on my part has since been worked out once again on my part. FWIW, this whole project had been prompted by our excellent visit to the Illinois Rail Museum" on Father's Day... If anyone is in this area, I would strongly suggest a visit. The read-me for excellent donationware route the states that the route need Open Rails to run properly due to the looped track. However, MSTS has given me the opportunity to create the activities I desired to, prompted by our visit, all which do what I was hoping for. A heartfelt thanks to all once again to the participants in this discussion... eluding back to my post on line 16, "Sticking to MSTS". Guess things depend on the circumstances. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"
Ron

[peaches461999]

You still didn't post the things that you were asked. You might be surprised to find the OR guys can really clue you in as to what the issue may be if you do post the screenshot and the log file.

[ronfalt]

"You still didn't post the things that you were asked. You might be surprised to find the OR guys can really clue you in as to what the issue may be if you do post the screenshot and the log file".
Possibly you did not understand what I was "saying" in my previous post--"my computer may not be adequate enough to "power' Open Rails."
The requests made of me cannot be dealt with by my computer.
Again,
Thanks to all who got involved here.
Ron

[geepster775]

Some day, you are going to have to "fix it", because new content will no longer be made compatible with MSTS going forward.

MSTS needs more CPU resources, while ORTS leans more on GPU resources. OR worked fine on my old XP single core setup, I just had horrible shadow effects because my graphics card was too old. But not being a CPU hog, OR ran fine with excellent frame rates. So unless you have some underpowered graphics issue, I doubt hardware is your problem.

Upon entering the sim, OR does not drop its brakes and allow the train to move as instantaneously like MSTS did. When the brake pipe is low upon initially entering the sim, it takes more than a few minutes for the aiir to pump up and for the brakes to knock loose enough upon full release on the handle to move the train. Either pull up the correct screen on the F5 HUD and watch the brake pipe pump up and eventually the brakes release, or watch from the gauges inside the cab. You just have to take some time, and don't become impatient when things are not as instantaneous as they were in MSTS. Full release on the brakes upon entering the sim meant instantaneous roll in MSTS, not so in OR.

Just make sure your reverser is set for the direction you want to go beforehand, because once gravity makes you free-roll faster than 2 mph, OR has a "feature" that (very un-prototypically) locks the reverser from being moved. I don't know how any player could ever realistically "kick" cars in a US flat switching yard with such fuddy-duddy restrictions on reverser movement.

[peaches461999]

How about this one....as well documented in regards to asking for help....what are the specifics of your computer? Operating system? Processor? Graphics? Things of that nature. I have a 13 year old p4 xp os that can run OR. It doesnt run it well...but it runs. You asked for help. But you have not helped anyone here to help you. The OR guys are good. There are some knowledgeable people in this forum. But the one thing they all suck at....is reading minds. in regards to help....the help you recieve will only be as good as the info you give or lack thereof.

[ronfalt]

I understand what you are saying peaches461999
Here are my computer specs:
BIOS = Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG (Phoenix Technologies, LTD)
Processor = AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+ (2 threads, 2 cores, 2.6 GHz) (Internal Cache 128 KB) (Internal Cache 128 KB) (External Cache 512 KB) (External Cache 512 KB)
Memory = 1.9 GB
Video = NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 (0.5 GB RAM) (nv4_mini 6.14.13.0783)
Display = \\.\DISPLAY1 Ā繄ᭈg 壌ꏇ 挫 (1024 x 768, 16-bit, primary, 0 x 0)
Sound = Realtek High Definition Audio (rtkhdaud 5.10.0.7083 built by: WinDDK)
Disk = C: (Local Fixed Disk, NTFS, 465.7 GB, 369.3 GB free)
Disk = D: (Removable Disk, )
Disk = E: (Removable Disk, )
Disk = F: (Removable Disk, )
Disk = G: (Removable Disk, )
Disk = H: (CD-ROM Disc, )
O/S is XP Pro Service Pack 3.
Hope this helps.
Ron

[qballbandit]

I'll say this with honesty, there is also an over-kill expectation for people to provide computer specs for issues where it's moot. Instances where the issue at hand is user induced, or the issues are so well documented with resolutions that are not related to "computer specs".
Please don't take my comments as rude, or all encompassing, but there are enough of those posts where a member is so eager to assist, and their knee-jerk response is "what are your computer specs?", which is humorous - but can also pollute the real solution.
There is a time and place for everything.

[crstagg]

Your point is well spoken, Niel. But, in this thread it was the OP that brought up the question of Computer specifications. The OP was asked to provide a screenshot of a particular page of the OR F5 Hud and a copy of the OpenRails log file. The OP responded "I have come to the conclusion that my computer may not be adequate enough to "power' Open Rails." It was then that Peaches asked for his computer specs.

[rdayt]

Not to sound like a smart @ss, but did you press the w key to put the reverser in forward? Then you have to press and hold the [ and ; keys until the engine and train brakes release completely. Then use the shift / combo to knock off the brakes.
No reason why it shouldn't work your computer specs are more than adequate.
You might also make sure you're not trying to start on an incline.

Randy

[rdayt]

Oh yeah. And don't give up.
OR blows MSTS out of the water as far as realistic trail operation goes and the graphics are awesome.
I'll help you if I can and I won't be condescending like some of the old hats seem to be.

Randy