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  • VLW
    Senior Member
    • May 2011
    • 497
    • Metro ATL

    #1

    Fatal error/bug

    Anyone know how to fix this? I tried running Surfliner 2, Metro-North, and PRR Eastern Region and none worked. Only the routes that came with the original MSTS.
    Fatal bug.png
  • R. Steele
    3500 Post Veteran

    • Feb 2013
    • 3928
    • known universe
    • ORTS

    #2
    Cannot read your pics.

    Anyway...all those routes you mention run fine in OR...no problems with any of them.
    Try to load explore or an activity on one of those routes and please post entire OR log, along with your system specs. Certain laptop lack the graphics capabilites needed for OR. Really anyone is just guessing until they can see the log.
    Cheers, Gerry
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    • baldwin
      6000 Post Veteran


      • Nov 1999
      • 6358
      • Chippenham, Wiltshire, UK.
      • ORTS

      #3
      Might be something to do with the tsection.dat in use. None of the routes mentioned will run on a default tsection.dat file.
      Beer is not a matter of life or death, it is much more serious than that.

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      • VLW
        Senior Member
        • May 2011
        • 497
        • Metro ATL

        #4
        Originally posted by baldwin
        Might be something to do with the tsection.dat in use. None of the routes mentioned will run on a default tsection.dat file.
        Is there something I need to do?
        Last edited by VLW; 06-05-2015, 11:20.

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        • VLW
          Senior Member
          • May 2011
          • 497
          • Metro ATL

          #5
          Originally posted by R. Steele
          Cannot read your pics.

          Anyway...all those routes you mention run fine in OR...no problems with any of them.
          Try to load explore or an activity on one of those routes and
          When I ran them this is what happened.

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          • R. Steele
            3500 Post Veteran

            • Feb 2013
            • 3928
            • known universe
            • ORTS

            #6
            Originally posted by acelafan84
            When I ran them this is what happened.
            To be a wiseacre (which is NOT a stretch for me) I am seeing "nothing" (unless that is your too obvious point!)
            Again, possibly part of your post did not make the directors cut.

            Originally posted by acelafan84
            Is there something I need to do?
            Best, thing would be to install the routes, precisely following instructions, make sure you have correct (usually most current tsection.dat file installed, obtainable I believe here, tutorials probably at Steam4Me and elsewhere.
            I believe I have been using build 44 tsection.dat and it seems to work with everything...
            Last edited by R. Steele; 06-05-2015, 13:45.
            Cheers, Gerry
            "A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open." Frank Zappa
            It's my railroad and I'll do what I want! Historically accurate attitude of US Railroad Barons.
            Forever, ridin' drag in railroad knowledge.
            Audi, Vide, Tace, Si Vis Vivere In Pace​

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            • VLW
              Senior Member
              • May 2011
              • 497
              • Metro ATL

              #7
              When I said when I ran the routes, what happened was in my 1st post.

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              • drelyea
                Senior Member
                • May 2010
                • 661
                • Big Johnson City, TN

                #8
                Hi,

                It looks to be as Baldwin suggested, it's the Tsection.dat. The Tsection.dat that shipped with the MSTS disks is considered Tsection 0 (zero). It's up to 44, but after X-tracks 3.20, you have to go on a snipe hunt to find the track shapes that have been developed after X-tracks 3.20

                Beside the Tsection.dat, there will also be shapes missing from your Global/Shapes folder. Find X-tracks 3.20, and download both packages for it. Install the contents of each where the downloads want them.

                As to the snipe hunt, most of the track shape packages can be found in the File library here.

                Doug Relyea
                Making stuff that works, using outdated Software on outdated Hardware.sigpic

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                • eolesen
                  9500 Post Veteran and Administrator



                  • Dec 2002
                  • 9583
                  • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
                  • English, SQL
                  • General

                  #9
                  Great. Now we have to explain snipe hunting.

                  The ReadMe of the route should list the dependencies like a specific TSection and track downloads.


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                  • R. Steele
                    3500 Post Veteran

                    • Feb 2013
                    • 3928
                    • known universe
                    • ORTS

                    #10
                    Originally posted by eric
                    Great. Now we have to explain snipe hunting.
                    Excerpt: (posted for educational purposes)

                    "There is a common belief that a “snipe hunt” is some sort of wild goose chase, a hazing ritual for naïve outdoors folk.

                    Consider the Wikipedia entry on the topic:

                    “A snipe hunt, a made up hunt that is also known as a fool’s errand, is a type of practical joke that involves experienced people making fun of credulous newcomers by giving them an impossible or imaginary task. The origin of the term is a practical joke where inexperienced campers are told about a bird or animal called the snipe as well as a usually preposterous method of catching it, such as running around the woods carrying a bag or making strange noises such as banging rocks together.”

                    The truth of the mythical snipe hunt is that the “fake” tools and techniques a rube is supposed to use are actual tools and techniques for catching real snipe.

                    The Wikipedia and Urban Dictionary pages cite moonless nights, spotlights, noisemakers, and gunny sacks. Yes!

                    These are the tools of the trade for a bird-catching tradition that goes back a very long way.

                    I first learned about snipe hunt techniques from famed Indian bird trapper Ali Hussein. He comes from a long line of bird trappers who once caught birds for profit....."

                    for remainder of article go here >>> http://blog.nature.org/science/2014/...h-and-reality/


                    snipehunt.jpg (<<<educational illustration)
                    Cheers, Gerry
                    "A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open." Frank Zappa
                    It's my railroad and I'll do what I want! Historically accurate attitude of US Railroad Barons.
                    Forever, ridin' drag in railroad knowledge.
                    Audi, Vide, Tace, Si Vis Vivere In Pace​

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                    • VLW
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2011
                      • 497
                      • Metro ATL

                      #11
                      Got it working! Turns out I didn't upgrage my tsection.dat. For Scalerail, X-Tracks etc.

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                      • drelyea
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 661
                        • Big Johnson City, TN

                        #12
                        Hi,

                        Which is why I used it, Snipe hunt. Of course, the first tool, that the newcomers don't believe, is to read the Readme in the route, as you suggested Eric. After that there is searching the file library here, checking International MSTS sites, Google search, etc. to find the missing Trackshapes.

                        There are a number of shapes that are only available as Payware, Access to some requires joining a forum somewhere, and there are even some that had a space assigned but were never made, or made but not distributed.

                        Thanks Gerry for finding the info and the link.

                        Doug Relyea
                        Making stuff that works, using outdated Software on outdated Hardware.sigpic

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