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  • amtrakgreg007
    New Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 11

    #1

    Looking for the Clickety Clack sound.

    I'm having a minor issue with the track sounds while running the BNSF Seligman Sub 2.0 version. I use to hear the clickety clack as the Cab and the rest of the train passes over the switches. I've uninstalled and re-installed the program with no luck. Is there a way I can get that back? Can someone help?
    Last edited by amtrakgreg007; 05-15-2015, 23:52. Reason: mispelled word
  • frankoburns
    2000 Post Veteran
    • Sep 2004
    • 2165

    #2


    When you say "program", do you mean the route or the sim?
    You need to be specific with your details...otherwise we are guessing.
    Last edited by frankoburns; 05-16-2015, 03:26.
    I'm like an old SD9; It Growls, Howls & squeaks...but it will run forever!

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    • amtrakgreg007
      New Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 11

      #3
      Looking for the Clickety Clack sound.

      Sorry for that, but I do have MSTS BIN installed and have the required routes needed for BNSF Seligman Sub 2.0. I purchased the route from www.streamlines.ca and made sure that all the requirements needed were met. I do have a few errors when Open Rails loads. Here are the details:

      This is a log file for Open Rails. Please include this file in bug reports.
      ------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- --------
      Date/time = 5/16/2015 12:40:30 AM (2015-05-16 05:40:30Z)
      BIOS = 80.20 (AMI)
      Processor = Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU G2020T @ 2.50GHz (2 threads, 2 cores, 2.5 GHz) (CPU Internal L2 512 KB) (CPU Internal L1 128 KB) (CPU Internal L3 3072 KB)
      Memory = 7.9 GB
      Video = Intel(R) HD Graphics (2.1 GB RAM) (igdkmd64 10.18.10.3621)
      Display = \\.\DISPLAY1 (1600 x 900, 32-bit, primary, 0 x 0)
      Sound = Realtek High Definition Audio (rtkvhd64 6.0.1.7487)
      Disk = C: (Local Fixed Disk, NTFS, 913.8 GB, 292.6 GB free)
      Disk = D: (Local Fixed Disk, NTFS, 15.5 GB, 1.9 GB free)
      Disk = E: (CD-ROM Disc, )
      Disk = F: (CD-ROM Disc, )
      OS = Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-bit (6.3.9600)
      Runtimes = 2.0.50727 SP2 3.0 SP2 3.5 SP1 4 Client 4 Full 4.0 Client
      Runtime = 2.0.50727.8009 (32bit)
      ------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- --------
      Version = 0.9.2969
      Build = 0.0.5569.38039 (2015-04-01 21:07:58Z)
      Logfile = c:\users\airtrafficcontroller\appdata\roaming\open rails\testinglog.txt
      Executable = RunActivityLAA.exe
      Argument = /Test
      Argument = /Logging
      Argument = /LoggingFilename=TestingLog.txt
      Argument = /LoggingPath=C:\Users\AirTrafficController\AppData\ Roaming\Open Rails
      Argument = /Profiling
      Argument = /ProfilingTime=10
      Argument = /ShowErrorDialogs=False
      Argument = C:\1MSTS\ROUTES\BNSF_Seligman2\ACTIVITIES\SLI_WEST BOUND_CHIEF.act
      ------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- --------
      AdhesionFactor = 130
      AdhesionFactorChange = 10
      AdhesionMovingAverageFilterSize = 10
      AdhesionProportionalToWeather = False
      Alerter = False
      AlerterDisableExternal = True
      Autopilot = False
      AuxActionEnabled = False
      AvatarURL = http://openrails.org/images/support-logos.jpg
      BrakePipeChargingRate = 21
      BreakCouplers = False
      Cab2DStretch = 0
      CarVibratingLevel = (user set) 1
      CircularSpeedGauge = False
      ConditionalLoadOfNightTextures = False
      CurveResistanceSpeedDependent = False
      CurveSpeedDependent = False
      DataLogger = False
      DataLoggerSeparator = comma
      DataLogMisc = False
      DataLogPerformance = True
      DataLogPhysics = False
      DataLogSpeedUnits = route
      DataLogStart = False
      DataLogStationStops = False
      DataLogTrainSpeed = False
      DataLogTSContents = 1, 1, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0
      DataLogTSInterval = 10
      DayAmbientLight = 20
      DistantMountains = True
      DistantMountainsViewingDistance = 40000
      DoubleWire = False
      DynamicShadows = (user set) True
      ExtendedAIShunting = False
      FastFullScreenAltTab = False
      FullScreen = (user set) True
      GraduatedRelease = (user set) True
      HotStart = True
      Language =
      LODBias = 0
      LODViewingExtention = False
      Logging = True
      LoggingFilename = (command-line) testinglog.txt
      LoggingPath = (command-line) c:\users\airtrafficcontroller\appdata\roaming\open rails
      Menu_Selection = (user set) C:\1MSTS, C:\1MSTS\ROUTES\BNSF_Seligman2, C:\1MSTS\ROUTES\BNSF_Seligman2\ACTIVITIES\SLI_HEAD IN_TO_PHOENIX.act
      ModelInstancing = False
      MSTSBINSound = True
      Multiplayer = False
      Multiplayer_Host = 127.0.0.1
      Multiplayer_Port = 30000
      Multiplayer_UpdateInterval = 10
      Multiplayer_User = AirTrafficController
      MultiplayerClient = False
      MultiplayerServer = False
      NoForcedRedAtStationStops = False
      OverrideNonElectrifiedRoutes = False
      PerformanceTuner = False
      PerformanceTunerTarget = 60
      PreferDDSTexture = False
      PressureUnit = Automatic
      Profiling = (command-line) True
      ProfilingFrameCount = 0
      ProfilingTime = (command-line) 10
      ReplayPauseBeforeEnd = True
      ReplayPauseBeforeEndS = 0
      RetainersOnAllCars = (user set) True
      ScreenshotPath = C:\Users\AirTrafficController\Pictures\Open Rails
      ShaderModel = 3
      ShadowAllShapes = False
      ShadowMapBlur = True
      ShadowMapCount = 4
      ShadowMapDistance = 1000
      ShadowMapResolution = 1024
      ShowAvatar = False
      ShowErrorDialogs = (command-line) False
      SignalLightGlow = False
      SoundDetailLevel = 5
      SoundVolumePercent = 100
      SuperElevationGauge = 1435
      SuperElevationMinLen = 50
      SuppressConfirmations = False
      SuppressShapeWarnings = False
      TunnelResistanceDependent = False
      Units = Automatic
      UseAdvancedAdhesion = True
      UseLargeAddressAware = True
      UseLocationPassingPaths = False
      UseMSTSEnv = False
      UseSuperElevation = 0
      VerticalSync = False
      ViewDispatcher = False
      ViewingDistance = 2000
      ViewingFOV = 45
      WindowGlass = False
      WindowPosition_Activity = 50, 50
      WindowPosition_CarOperations = 50, 50
      WindowPosition_Compass = 50, 0
      WindowPosition_ComposeMessage = 50, 50
      WindowPosition_DriverAid = 100, 100
      WindowPosition_Help = 50, 50
      WindowPosition_NextStation = (user set) 100, 44
      WindowPosition_Quit = 50, 50
      WindowPosition_Switch = 0, 50
      WindowPosition_TrackMonitor = (user set) 0, 100
      WindowPosition_TrainOperations = 50, 50
      WindowSize = (user set) 1440x900
      Wire = True
      WorldObjectDensity = 10
      YoungestFailedToRestore = 0
      ------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- --------
      Mode = Test
      Route = BNSF Seligman 2.0
      Activity = Westbound Southwest Chief (C:\1MSTS\ROUTES\BNSF_Seligman2\ACTIVITIES\SLI_WES TBOUND_CHIEF.act)
      ------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- --------
      Loading TRK TDB SIGCFG

      Warning: Skipped duplicate SignalShape SLI_H2_APP_GANTRY.S in C:\1MSTS\ROUTES\BNSF_Seligman2\sigcfg.dat:line 1111

      Warning: Skipped duplicate SignalShape SLI_H2_APP_GANTRY.S in C:\1MSTS\ROUTES\BNSF_Seligman2\sigcfg.dat:line 1129

      Warning: 2 missing SignalShape(s) in C:\1MSTS\ROUTES\BNSF_Seligman2\sigcfg.dat:line 1386

      DAT ACT RDB CARSPAWN SIGSCR W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) WWWWWWWWWWWWWW

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      • amtrakgreg007
        New Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 11

        #4
        Here is the last part of what I've sent:

        Information: Renumbering cab control positions from zero due to value > 0xFFFF in C:\1MSTS\trains\trainset\SLI_AMT_SWCHIEF_2012\CABV IEW\P42CAB.cvf:line 246

        Information: Renumbering cab control positions from zero due to value > 0xFFFF in C:\1MSTS\trains\trainset\SLI_AMT_SWCHIEF_2012\CABV IEW\P42CAB.cvf:line 246

        Warning: Cannot parse the constant number 27.2.2 in C:\1MSTS\trains\trainset\SLI_BNSF_FREIGHT\BNSF_516 1_HOPPER_480274_LD.wag:line 60

        Warning: Cannot parse the constant number 27.2.2 in C:\1MSTS\trains\trainset\SLI_BNSF_FREIGHT\BNSF_516 1_HOPPER_479126_LD.wag:line 60


        Run AI : 10 01:00 02:00 03:00 04:00 05:00 06:00 07:00 08:00 09:00 10:00 11:00 12:00 13:00 14:00 15:00 16:00 17:00 18:00 19:00 ENV SIGCFG SIGCFG

        Warning: Skipped duplicate SignalShape SLI_H2_APP_GANTRY.S in C:\1MSTS\ROUTES\BNSF_Seligman2\sigcfg.dat:line 1111

        Warning: Skipped duplicate SignalShape SLI_H2_APP_GANTRY.S in C:\1MSTS\ROUTES\BNSF_Seligman2\sigcfg.dat:line 1129

        Warning: 2 missing SignalShape(s) in C:\1MSTS\ROUTES\BNSF_Seligman2\sigcfg.dat:line 1386

        TTYPETTTTTTTTLLLLLLLWWSSSSSSSSSSSW S(repeats) S(repeats) S(repeats) S(repeats) S(repeats) SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS$WW S(repeats) S(repeats) S(repeats) S(repeats) S(repeats) S(repeats) SSSSSSSSSSS$WSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS$WSSW S(repeats) SSSSSSSSSSSS$WCSCSCSCSCSCSSCSCSCSCSCSCS

        Information: Game.ReplaceState(GameStateViewer3DTest) GameStateViewer3DTest

        Information: Game.PushState(GameStateViewer3D) GameStateViewer3D | GameStateViewer3DTest

        Loader: Time = 00:00:52.3438760 ms
        Loader: Expected = 140,543,611 bytes
        Loader: Actual = 140,544,318 bytes
        Loader: Difference = 707 bytes (0.0 %)

        Information: Ignored missing animations data in shape c:\1msts\routes\bnsf_seligman2\shapes\milepost.s

        Information: Ignored missing animations data in shape c:\1msts\routes\bnsf_seligman2\shapes\speed_top.s

        SSS

        Information: Game.PopState() GameStateViewer3DTest

        Information: Game.PopState()

        Thanks for your help

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        • ftldave
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 448
          • Bloomington, Indiana

          #5
          What has MSTS Bin got to do with a sound problem in Open Rails? Huh?

          Posted in the wrong forum?
          Last edited by ftldave; 05-16-2015, 00:06. Reason: add txt
          FTLDave

          "Research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing." - Wernher von Braun


          "A software suggestion is not a valid answer to a configuration/troubleshooting question." - Timelmer

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          • Snowman
            Senior Member


            • Apr 2001
            • 214

            #6
            Originally posted by ftldave
            What has MSTS Bin got to do with a sound problem in Open Rails? Huh?

            Posted in the wrong forum?
            Yeah, I think so. This thread was started in the MSTS forum, but after seeing his log from OpenRails, I think his problem is with OR, not MSTS. Frank, is right about needing more details, like what sim exactly are you talking about?

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            • frankoburns
              2000 Post Veteran
              • Sep 2004
              • 2165

              #7
              Originally posted by ftldave
              What has MSTS Bin got to do with a sound problem in Open Rails? Huh?

              Posted in the wrong forum?
              How about you attempt to help the op and quit worrying about what I post?
              I'm like an old SD9; It Growls, Howls & squeaks...but it will run forever!

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              • baldwin
                6000 Post Veteran


                • Nov 1999
                • 6358
                • Chippenham, Wiltshire, UK.
                • ORTS

                #8
                First of all, the sounds heard while traversing pointwork are sound regions not track sounds. If the sms and wav files are not present the sounds will not be heard. Your open rails log contains zero sound region errors or warnings about missing wav files.

                Secondly, I have never heard those sounds in the BNSF Seligman route either, perhaps because I have not been listening for it. There is a full soundset in the Seligman2 sound folder so they should be working in places where the sound source has been placed.
                Last edited by baldwin; 05-16-2015, 05:12.
                Beer is not a matter of life or death, it is much more serious than that.

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                • OTTODAD
                  1
                  • Feb 2001
                  • 32344
                  • England
                  • General

                  #9
                  This is all that is in the Seligman-2 Ttype.dat:



                  Replace it with one from another US route !

                  Driving over switches sounds can be created by placing their sound markers into switches with the MSTS Route Editors, like I have done using my sounds for them in my Gold-Spike-X !

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                  • Vince
                    6500 Post Veteran

                    • Nov 1999
                    • 6961
                    • Mohave

                    #10
                    I don't think the Sound Source objects (the Point Sound of which OttO speaks) are implemented yet in Open Rails . . . at least I don't hear them when I run my route in OR.

                    Not sure if this is what the OP's problem is tho'.
                    The regular track sounds do work fine in OR. If the OP would try a default route to be sure it would help diagnose the problem.
                    best,
                    Last edited by Vince; 05-16-2015, 10:53.
                    ............Vince ..............
                    ...... Author NECv4 .......
                    .... LIRR BUILD PHOTOS ....
                    ...... Eschew Obsfucation ......

                    On the The Statue of Liberty in New York Harbor there is a Tablet. On it is written:
                    "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
                    the wretched refuse of your teeming shore, send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
                    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

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                    • amtrakgreg007
                      New Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 11

                      #11
                      Well done! It's great to have professionals like yourselves on this forum. It's always a pleasure to ask and receive great information. Thank you for this, and I will get on it and let you know how it worked out. Just a side note: All of you are great in your own way, and you've proven that by commenting on this issue. There are so many methods to problem solving. I say that to say this, please stop bad mouthing one another. Trains have been around for a long time, and it took blood sweat and many lives lost in the development of our rail system. Please come together and do this one for Jonathan Luther "John" "Casey" Jones!!!. Keep up the good work, and thanks again.

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                      • OTTODAD
                        1
                        • Feb 2001
                        • 32344
                        • England
                        • General

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Vince
                        I don't think the Sound Source objects (the Point Sound of which OttO speaks) are implemented yet in Open Rails . . . at least I don't hear them when I run my route in OR.
                        Correct !



                        Not sure if this is what the OP's problem is tho'. The regular track sounds do work fine in OR. If the OP would try a default route to be sure it would help diagnose the problem.
                        Yes, track joint sounds listed by routes Ttype.dat files read them in the MSTS\SOUND folder and that now works in ORTS !

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                        • Vince
                          6500 Post Veteran

                          • Nov 1999
                          • 6961
                          • Mohave

                          #13
                          I removed my post of the original published Casey Jones because the original historical text as published in 1935 was edited.History, it seems, cannot be edited to suit all. It is what it is.
                          ............Vince ..............
                          ...... Author NECv4 .......
                          .... LIRR BUILD PHOTOS ....
                          ...... Eschew Obsfucation ......

                          On the The Statue of Liberty in New York Harbor there is a Tablet. On it is written:
                          "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
                          the wretched refuse of your teeming shore, send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
                          I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

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                          • ftldave
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 448
                            • Bloomington, Indiana

                            #14
                            Originally posted by frankoburns
                            How about you attempt to help the op and quit worrying about what I post?
                            As you so often point out with such great eloquence, Frank, it's hard to help when the post doesn't make much sense. We all know that MSTS Bin or any other MSTS program file isn't directly required in ORTS, henceforth the thread being in the Open Rails section AND the reference to Bin was confusing. And you have a nice day, too!

                            "Civility costs nothing, and buys everything."

                            – Mary Wortley Montagu
                            Last edited by ftldave; 05-16-2015, 18:02. Reason: add txt
                            FTLDave

                            "Research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing." - Wernher von Braun


                            "A software suggestion is not a valid answer to a configuration/troubleshooting question." - Timelmer

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                            • frankoburns
                              2000 Post Veteran
                              • Sep 2004
                              • 2165

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ftldave
                              As you so often point out with such great eloquence, Frank, it's hard to help when the post doesn't make much sense. We all know that MSTS Bin or any other MSTS program file isn't directly required in ORTS, henceforth the thread being in the Open Rails section AND the reference to Bin was confusing. And you have a nice day, too!

                              "Civility costs nothing, and buys everything."

                              – Mary Wortley Montagu
                              Dave, as pointed out before, the post was originally in the MSTS section, then moved......but maybe you didn't see that. And YES, I'll have a nice day....You do the same!
                              Last edited by frankoburns; 05-16-2015, 18:10.
                              I'm like an old SD9; It Growls, Howls & squeaks...but it will run forever!

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