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  • asteph627
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2003
    • 261
    • Chalmette, Louisiana

    #1

    Train not running on Tracks

    Good Morning everyone

    I have seen a few posts about derailments in Open Rails and not on purpose, I actually had one on this activity I created. While running up Cajon Pass version 4, I was operating a train up Cajon Pass. On one of the curves near the summit, I changed from Camera View #2 to Camera view #1. In Camera view #1, I began to lose the view of the track in front of loco. I switched back to Camera View #2 and observed my train rolling across the terrain away from SP tracks and toward the BNSF tracks. The train then turned away from BNSF tracks and continued on terrain with no tracks. I watched this about 30 seconds before stopping the sim. During this time the train continued moving in different directions on terrain and only slightly slowed down. I have sent this to Open Rails for investigating

    AJ Stephany
  • eolesen
    9500 Post Veteran and Administrator



    • Dec 2002
    • 9583
    • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
    • English, SQL
    • General

    #2
    What version of ORTS were you running? Old versions would continue running on a given vector after the physical track and defined vector ended.
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    • asteph627
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2003
      • 261
      • Chalmette, Louisiana

      #3
      version 3086

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      • eolesen
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        • Dec 2002
        • 9583
        • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
        • English, SQL
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        #4
        Two possibilities...

        1) The world files are out of sync with the track database. ORTS doesn't "drive" on the tracks. It follows vectors defined in the TDB, and if someone's deliberately made changes to the track scenery objects without also updating the TDB, you'll get the behaviour you're seeing.

        2) Your PC memory is low, and the tracks aren't being rendered as quickly as your changing of the camera views...
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        • R. Steele
          3500 Post Veteran

          • Feb 2013
          • 3928
          • known universe
          • ORTS

          #5
          Originally posted by eric
          Two possibilities...

          1)...if someone's deliberately made changes to the track scenery objects without also updating the TDB, you'll get the behaviour you're seeing.
          Apologies, off topic ... does the quoted statement include moving trees off the tracks?
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          • baldwin
            6000 Post Veteran


            • Nov 1999
            • 6358
            • Chippenham, Wiltshire, UK.
            • ORTS

            #6
            Unfortunately no Gerry. Those danged trees are controlled by the forest regions. What works for them in MSTS will not do the same in OR.

            Only way is to go chase those handles and move them.
            Beer is not a matter of life or death, it is much more serious than that.

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            • baldwin
              6000 Post Veteran


              • Nov 1999
              • 6358
              • Chippenham, Wiltshire, UK.
              • ORTS

              #7
              I did say over at Elvas Tower, that with the high number of signals errors there is a high probability of the tdb being out of sync with the world files, and the remedy is to reinstall the route
              Beer is not a matter of life or death, it is much more serious than that.

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              • OTTODAD
                1
                • Feb 2001
                • 32344
                • England
                • General

                #8
                Originally posted by eric
                ORTS doesn't "drive" on the tracks. It follows vectors defined in the TDB.
                The same applies to MSTS. It does not need the created WORLD files at all and will run trains following invisible track ribbons on bare terrain, as recorded in the route's *.tdb file !

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                • OTTODAD
                  1
                  • Feb 2001
                  • 32344
                  • England
                  • General

                  #9
                  Originally posted by baldwin
                  I did say over at Elvas Tower, that with the high number of signals errors there is a high probability of the tdb being out of sync with the world files, and the remedy is to reinstall the route
                  And if it is a route created by the user then RESTORE its last fully working Back-Up !

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                  • eolesen
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                    • Dec 2002
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                    #10
                    He already said Cajon 4.
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