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  • eolesen
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    • Dec 2002
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    #16
    Originally posted by OTTODAD
    [COLOR=#000000]Yes and its 2 concrete and wood *.TXT files have 304 SR_*.S tracks shape files listed in them, whereas the SISKIYOU's Global\Shapes folder contains 2311 !!!
    I suspect you're including the road pieces from ScaleRoads in your count.

    Originally posted by OTTODAD
    [COLOR=#000000]To convert all the MSTS default tracks in a route's existing route's World tiles which are named FileName ( A1t10mStrt.s ), etc, they have to be replaced by other tracks with file names like Scalerail have, using a different naming format like FileName ( SR_1tStr_c_010m.s ), providing that there are replacement tracks that have geometrically matching sections, switches and crossovers and are listed in the Global\Tsection.dat.

    There are editors which can be told to find certain named tracks in decompressed World Tiles and replace them with matching others, but that takes some doing and requires a thorough knowledge of the subject !

    Using a File Manager like OPUS to globally renaming for-instance all DB1_a1t10mStrt.s to A1t10mStrt.s, etc, takes seconds and if copied into a MSTS MINI's Global\Shapes folder they can then be read by all converted to using them MSTS routes like this one from my web site does, having also converted all the route's Dynamic tracks to DYNATRAX ones.
    The process for doing a 1:1 conversion with DB Tracks is no different than what you'd do with ScaleRail: you have a search & replace script that swaps out the filename based on a cross-reference file.
    Last edited by eric; 05-03-2015, 20:44.
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    • OTTODAD
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      #17
      Originally posted by eric
      I suspect you're including the road pieces from ScaleRoads in your count.
      No, I just did another fine-tuned one searching for SR*_w_*.s;SR*_c_*.s and not counting a few SRn30 narrow gauge tracks got 2327 SR track sections !

      The process for doing a 1:1 conversion with DB Tracks is no different than what you'd do with ScaleRail: you have a search & replace script that swaps out the filename based on a cross-reference file.
      No again !

      All I have to do is have the OPUS file manager strip the
      DB1_a1t0_3mStrt.s or DB3_a1t0_3mStrt.s, etc, from all their file names, done in seconds and any route using X-Tracks will show them !

      Doing that however I can not have them display concrete ties and wooden ties in the same route, but my DB-Tracks Changers can replace all in a route with other DB-Tracks ties I have supplied, done again in seconds !

      That was years of work creating my Tracks and River Water Changers for X-TRACKS, DB-TRACKS and SR-TRACKS so that Train Simulator users of them can instantly change them to others I have provided with them, routes downloaded from my web site have used for many years now !

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      • Shawmut
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        • Oct 2008
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        #18
        I'm mainly interested in using your ORTS ScaleRail to convert existing routes. To that effect would you please consider adding two items to the package that will make said conversions much easier:

        1. A spreadsheet outlining Kuju/Xtracks shapes and their corresponding ScaleRail v.2.0 names
        2. A DynaTrax profile so that dynamic track can be converted to shapes.

        Thanks for your consideration!

        Dave

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        • OTTODAD
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          #19
          Originally posted by Hack
          Documenting this mess is half the work, but I'll do my best to include a complete list.
          SR-tracks filenames do not share a suffix filenames format with A?t*.s tracks file names a Global Find and Replace in the World files of routes using X-Tracks could replace with similarly formatted Scalerail tracks, unless somebody can explain how that can be done using a list created by Marc !

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          • eolesen
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            #20
            I have a cross reference of Kuju/XT to Scalerail pieces that I'll gladly share if Marc is OK with it.

            There are ~410 pieces which are a direct replacement for XT/default sections. Many of the pieces not supported are odd-length straights, fractional switches, and the related frogs & end pieces.



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            • Bananarama
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              #21
              Originally posted by eric
              I have a cross reference of Kuju/XT to Scalerail pieces that I'll gladly share if Marc is OK with it.
              I don't have a problem with that - sounds useful.
              Cheers!

              Melanie - 3DTrains

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              • MSTS lifer
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                • Dec 2012
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                #22
                Originally posted by eric
                I have a cross reference of Kuju/XT to Scalerail pieces that I'll gladly share if Marc is OK with it.

                There are ~410 pieces which are a direct replacement for XT/default sections. Many of the pieces not supported are odd-length straights, fractional switches, and the related frogs & end pieces.



                Does this include straight sections under.003m??? I was told a long time ago MSTS can't interrupt any thing under .003 meters which is why such sections don't currently exists. I can't tell you how many times it would have been NICE to have a .001m straight instead of trying some wild combo or other means to get track to join up!!!
                Last edited by eric; 05-06-2015, 21:31.

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                • Bananarama
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by MSTS lifer
                  Does this include straight sections under.003m??? I was told a long time ago MSTS can't interrupt any thing under .003 meters which is why such sections don't currently exists. I can't tell you how many times it would have been NICE to have a .001m straight instead of trying some wild combo or other means to get track to join up!!!
                  I believe .003m is the limit without causing a CTD.
                  Cheers!

                  Melanie - 3DTrains

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                  • OTTODAD
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by MSTS lifer
                    I can't tell you how many times it would have been NICE to have a .001m straight instead of trying some wild combo or other means to get track to join up!!!
                    I am using a Dynamic straight track to fill an odd gap for which there is no track section and it tells me the length of it.

                    Not liking to use them in routes I am working on I then delete it knowing the length of the gap to fill and can work out what short sections of tracks are needed to fill it !

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                    • eolesen
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Hack
                      I have been in daily contact with Tim, so I suspect the re-release will be ready soon.
                      Glad to hear. Hopefully he is still licensing so I can create some of the odd pieces I find myself needing from time to time.

                      Originally posted by Hack
                      I believe .003m is the limit without causing a CTD.
                      Actually, the 000_2m in the yard straights works great. I use it quite often. I use it far more often than I do the 000_3m sections.
                      Last edited by eric; 05-06-2015, 21:36.
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                      • eolesen
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                        #26
                        Three files attached -- one Kuju to SRv1.0 comma separated cross reference, one ReplaceText formatted file, and a listing of the pieces that don't have a corresponding Scalerail section.

                        Scalerail-XTracks-Compatibility.txt

                        Scalerail-XTracks-ReplaceEm.txt

                        XTRacks-NoScaleRail.txt
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                        • Bananarama
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                          #27
                          Way to go, Eric! Thanks for that.

                          Did you get my email today? I ask because AOL sometimes flags email from my site as spam.
                          Cheers!

                          Melanie - 3DTrains

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                          • OTTODAD
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by eric
                            Three files attached -- one Kuju to SRv1.0 comma separated cross reference, one ReplaceText formatted file, and a listing of the pieces that don't have a corresponding Scalerail section.
                            Well done !

                            Is there a program which can globally replace X-Tracks in a route's World files which have matching Scalerail ones as listed by you ?

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                            • eolesen
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Hack
                              Way to go, Eric! Thanks for that.
                              Did you get my email today?
                              Yep. Responded.

                              Originally posted by OTTODAD

                              Is there a program which can globally replace X-Tracks in a route's World files which have matching Scalerail ones as listed by you ?
                              The tutorial in the library covers it in more detail than I can in a forum post -- the program is now called ReplaceText, and the file I included (ReplaceEm) is formatted to be directly imported into that program.
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                              • OTTODAD
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                                #30
                                Originally posted by eric
                                The tutorial in the library covers it in more detail than I can in a forum post -- the program is now called ReplaceText, and the file I included (ReplaceEm) is formatted to be directly imported into that program.
                                Thanks, downloading it now !

                                P.S.: Can't find it. What is its download ZIP called ?
                                Last edited by OTTODAD; 05-07-2015, 21:19.

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