Cab animated objects - outline issue.

[qballbandit]

Hello,
I am using a set of cabs for EMD standard cab engines, by Ales (here in the library).
They all seem to have an issue in both the day and night views, where each animated object - throttle lever, brake levers, light switch, etc., are "outlined", as if a picture was cut and pasted on the main cab image.
See below screen shot:


Is this a known bug, a bug that needs reporting, or a bug with a repairable solution via some .cvf edit?

Thanks much,

[markus1996]

Hello,
I am using a set of cabs for EMD standard cab engines, by Ales (here in the library).
They all seem to have an issue in both the day and night views, where each animated object - throttle lever, brake levers, light switch, etc., are "outlined", as if a picture was cut and pasted on the main cab image.
See below screen shot:
[screenshot removed in quote]

Is this a known bug, a bug that needs reporting, or a bug with a repairable solution via some .cvf edit?

Thanks much,

Actually, the controls in the 2D cab are "cut and pasted onto the main cab image" from their respective texture files, both in MSTS and ORTS. However, in this case, they seem to not be cut exactly. That could have various reasons.

First of all, could you post a screenshot of how this cab looks in MSTS?

Second, what version of ORTS are you using?

Has the issue turned up in earlier versions of ORTS? If yes, which version was the first you saw it on?

Could you please post a link to a location said cab pack can be downloaded from?


Cheers, Markus

[qballbandit]

Good day Markus,
Thanks for your reply
Here is the cab pack, available here in the files library: emd_2_cab.zip
If I recall correctly, there are cabs for GP38/SD40/SD50/SD60 in the pack.

I am using x2994, and it is the only version I have ever spent any time in, so all of my issues are new in my OR experience, under this release.

Here is a pic from MSTS for comparison, and you can see that the controls do not show up "outlined" in MSTS; they are perfectly fine.

[markus1996]

Hi Neil,

since you said, it´s your first time using ORTS, I quickly searched thru the code changes log and couldn´t find anything related to changes in 2D cab handling or texture alpha channel handling within about the last 700 revisions. Also, when I installed the cab, and quickly checked in-game, I could see these outlines, too.

However, I went to compare your screenshot with the cabs I normally use (Charlie Sibaja´s SHR series) and found those cabs also had the white outlines. I went to check in MSTS, but couldn´t do so, because the sim kept crashing with various locos I tried.

In conclusion, ORTS seems to have a problem with said outlines. In your case, it is confirmed those outlines are not visible in MSTS. In my case, I couldn´t verify that. If anybody is interested and would do the check, the cab pack I used is shrst2p2.zip (library here at TS.com).

Since when this problem exists, I cannot tell. I have never noticed it, so I assume it to have been there for as long as I´ve been using ORTS ...

Cheers, Markus

[qballbandit]

Good evening Markus, and again - I appreciate your reply.
I am confident that the cabs controls display properly everyone using them in MSTS. I was on the beta test team, and none of us had issues like this reported in MSTS.
As for ORTS, another thing - for now, that will keep me form running it until this can be resolved. I will start a post on Monday at Elvas, and link this thread to it. Hopefully it will be well enough received that it can be addressed in the future.
I wonder what the difference is between Borislav's DASH-9/AC4400CW cabs (that display properly in OR), and Ales and Charlies?

[baldwin]

There are several graphics glitches when running OR, trees and/or bushes with an opaque alpha for instance and this white outline on some cab controls. Minor annoyances that do not prevent me from enjoying a superior product.

You have to remember that the dev team has no access to the MSTS source, so has had to take guesses at things, most have turned out right, some not quite.

[qballbandit]

I'll agree - OR is a major improvement over default MSTS. I like what I see overall, very much.
I appreciate the challenges the team has had to overcome to get this far, and respect that there is a long way to go yet.
That said, there a a few things that keep me from running it routinely. I am so anal about trying to replicate realism in terms of the visual world - was like that in MSFS, and it carried over to MSTS - that obvious, glaring visual anomalies just scream out to me, and I lose the immersion into my private train running world.
It's all on me. But, I hope to be able to correct as many of these issues as possible so I can use OR more. I'll tackle one by one, and see if it can be addressed, and go on to the next