Driving Loco in ORTS using the Mouse Only

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  • OTTODAD
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    • Feb 2001
    • 32344
    • England
    • General

    #1

    Driving Loco in ORTS using the Mouse Only

    I am happy to report that in X.2951 I can now drive my favorite ICE-3 in the NEC-4 using the mouse only and all controls respond instantly.

    The throttle and train brakes levers move smoothly, the train responding without delays and the train brakes are now being released quicker like in a real ICE train.

    http://www.otto-wipfel.co.uk/video/orts-ice-3-mouse-controlled.wmv

    Here is the 3DTrains Surfliner, again being driven using only the mouse and although the train brakes release in an instant, it takes gentle increases of the throttle to get it moving, avoiding wheel slip !

    http://www.otto-wipfel.co.uk/video/orts-surfliner-mouse-controlled.wmv

    The Acela-2020 still has a problem with the train brakes not releasing them like those of the ICE-3 and have not tested diesels and steamers !
    Last edited by OTTODAD; 03-27-2015, 19:38. Reason: Surfliner video added
  • Vince
    6500 Post Veteran

    • Nov 1999
    • 6961
    • Mohave

    #2
    Originally posted by OTTODAD
    I am happy to report that in X.2951 I can now drive my favorite ICE-3 in the NEC-4 using the mouse only and all controls respond instantly.
    ............................snip.................. ....................
    The Acela-2020 still has a problem with the train brakes not releasing them like those of the ICE-3 and have not tested diesels and steamers !
    I agree there are differences in the *.eng files to make up for the kuju klown game engine know as MSTS.
    While this has made MSTS (finally) operate with some sort of reliability there are bound to be problems with engine files designed to overcome the shortcomings MSTS when running under well designed Open Rails and still developing code.

    Already in my opinion Open Rails performance and accuracy running most MSTS equipment far surpasses anything I've ever seen with MSTS and the video rendering simply blows MSTS away big time!

    I'm quite patient and download every experimental OR version released, sometime several times a day as my primary concern is continuously checking that my route build stays compatable with OR.
    It's getting MUCH better all the time Otto and sure, there are time when new bugs are introduced but that's how it gets better!
    By the way, I've tweaked the Acela 2020 brakes so they operate quite well thank you.
    all best and stay well,
    vince
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    • OTTODAD
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      • Feb 2001
      • 32344
      • England
      • General

      #3
      Originally posted by Vince
      By the way, I've tweaked the Acela 2020 brakes so they operate quite well thank you. All best and stay well.
      Good to hear that you too are making progress !


      Could you please let me have your Acela 2020 train brakes mods so that I can test run in on one of my favorite MSTSBin routes, your NEC-4 !

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      • R. Steele
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        • Feb 2013
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        #4
        Good for you Otto.
        In my experience I've found mice to be way too small to drive trains, so I usually get something larger, like a hog at the head of the train!
        Cheers, Gerry
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        • Bananarama
          5500 Post Veteran
          • Nov 1999
          • 5606
          • Another Planet

          #5
          Originally posted by R. Steele
          In my experience I've found mice to be way too small to drive trains
          They are, however, cheap to maintain. All it takes is a slice of cheese...
          Cheers!

          Melanie - 3DTrains

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          • seagoon
            5000 Post Veteran

            • Jun 2001
            • 5161
            • Yamba, N.S.WALES, Australia

            #6
            Originally posted by Hack
            They are, however, cheap to maintain. All it takes is a slice of cheese...
            Hogs are cheaper....they only need pig-swill.
            Some cheeses, such as a fine King Island brie, are very expensive and if one experiences a plague of meeces then the cost of cheeses can be considerable.

            Seriously though, I am concerned that Otto is only using one mouse.
            Shouldn't there be two in the cab?
            Last edited by seagoon; 03-28-2015, 05:22.
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            • OTTODAD
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              • Feb 2001
              • 32344
              • England
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              #7
              Originally posted by seagoon
              Seriously though, I am concerned that Otto is only using one mouse.
              Shouldn't there be two in the cab?
              A computer can use only one and in any case have no cheese for 2 !

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              • woodfyr
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2006
                • 232
                • On the Rocky Coast of Maine

                #8
                My mouse is addicted to peanut butter. Mice is nice but RD is even more awesome.
                Russ G

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                • Bananarama
                  5500 Post Veteran
                  • Nov 1999
                  • 5606
                  • Another Planet

                  #9
                  Originally posted by seagoon
                  Shouldn't there be two in the cab?
                  I suppose it depends on the Brotherhood of Locomotive Mouseketeers union rules.

                  Cheers!

                  Melanie - 3DTrains

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                  • seagoon
                    5000 Post Veteran

                    • Jun 2001
                    • 5161
                    • Yamba, N.S.WALES, Australia

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Hack
                    I suppose it depends on the Brotherhood of Locomotive Mouseketeers union rules.

                    Was Annette Funicello a member?

                    (Aaaaaah......Annette! Bellissima!)
                    IBM XT i386; 512Kb RAM; 5.25" FDD; 1.4Mb FDD; 5Mb HDD; VGA 256-colour graphics card; AdLib soundcard; DR DOS 6.0; Windows 3.0

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                    • slipperman
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                      • May 2010
                      • 3787
                      • Worksop, UK
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                      #11
                      Was Annette Funicello a member?


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                      Showing my age now!!

                      Ged

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                      • conductorchris
                        2500 Post Veteran

                        • Mar 2010
                        • 2905
                        • Vermont
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                        #12
                        Our son discovered this morning that you can also use a touch screen to run the controls. Somehow this is more satisfying (to me - and him too) than a mouse. My touch screen is new and I'm stuck in my old ways and not used to it.
                        Christopher

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                        • OTTODAD
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                          • Feb 2001
                          • 32344
                          • England
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by conductorchris
                          Our son discovered this morning that you can also use a touch screen to run the controls. Somehow this is more satisfying (to me - and him too) than a mouse. My touch screen is new and I'm stuck in my old ways and not used to it.
                          Depends on the size of the monitor screen and the size of a clean finger tip, moving minute MSTS locos console controls !

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