Explore Route in Freestyle Activities

[OTTODAD]

Here is an example of what can be done in a MSTSBin short path Freestyle activity in my Gold-Spike-X route at Whitefish:

http://www.otto-wipfel.co.uk/video/mstsbin-freestyle-explore-gsx-db-tracks.wmv

The original player train's engineer has coupled his train onto another driveable one in front of it and after changing into its cab and uncoupling his previous train drives it wherever he wants to go, Athol or Canada ?

All switches are Manual, but it not having a standard Player path from end to end is confusing its signals !

No problem because AIs have been programmed to run so as not to get in the way of players.

Railworks can do this a lot better, most of its signals controlling running trains in my famous Freeroam scenarios, the High Speed Denmark-2000 for instance having 46 driveable player ICEs, TGVs and other pathed AI trains, Jim Ward's MSTSBin DB-Tracks Pon-11 also having many AIs !

I am sorry, ORTS team, but until I can drive responsive controls trains like that in ORTS I shall have to give it a miss !

[Vince]

Hi OttO,
You do realize that the freestyle activities and the route were custom developed by Sniper especially for the PO&N MSTS route freestyle activities. Even the signal logic was tweaked to get all that wonderful AI to operate correctly.
Expecting them to work the same in ORTS I think is not possible so I'd suggest patience. It'd a Sim in development for goodness sake!

Tell me, do these same complex type of activities work for RS? RW? TS2015? Any other Sims?

I seem to remember Jim did the PO&N for one of the other Sims . . . RW perhaps. Does it operate the same as the MSTS version?
Asking because I really don't know but would be interested to learn.

It took Jim a looong time to get those AI timings right with many modifications of the route itself to make them work relying as they do on the flawed signal logic of MSTS. The PO&N is actually two seperate routes, one for the player and one exclusivly for the AI traffic trains.

Personally I think you should dial back the bitching about things developed for exclusive use with MSTS not working with OR and get busy developing things that do work with Open Rails.

All the best and stay healthy. You're still sharp as a tack and you can make a difference in the development of OR.
Bitching does you harm and I'd hate to loose you.

I had a close friend at IBM who got so worked up he spit at his TV screen when then President Bill Clinton was on.
He died doing that. RIP Dave Ferber.
All Best,

[seagoon]

I am sorry, ORTS team, but until I can drive responsive controls trains like that in ORTS I shall have to give it a miss !

Oh dear.......what a shame.
We'll miss your complaints in this forum.

[scottb613]

Hi Folks,

Go back to MSTS ??? OMG - not even possible in my book anymore...


Regards,
Scott

[OTTODAD]

Hi Vince !

Jim and I have been working together on improving MSTS, RailSimulator and Railworks for a long time and have learned much from each other and others, including RSDL and RSC, have learned something from us !

He has created his RSDL Port Ogden & Chicago Metro route I have then modified and released from my web site.

http://www.otto-wipfel.co.uk/video/pocm.wmv

It was a popular download for a long time and he did the same running many AIs in it as he did in his MSTSBin PON versions.

I myself have made many suggestions over the years, some have benefitted from, including you, remember Y-Tracks I have helped Romanovski create and those who do not like them should suggest their own preferences on how to improve train simulators, developers can then pick and choose !