Trouble loading Denver & Rio Grand Western Cumbres Route ver 1;1

[LionelDave]

I have downloaded the "Denver&Rio Grand western Cumbres Route ver 1.1" From Rail Serve.com. I downloaded from their routes section.

It seemed to install OK But when I try to explore the route in OR it starts ok I get the black screen with the OR logo in the center. Then nothing else happens and after waiting a while OP drops back to the opening screen.

Does any one know what is going wrong?

I have since installed the fixed for the route hoping it would solve the problem but I still get the same results. It acts like it is loading the route but drops back to the opening screen. (No comments no messages)

(I know I shouldn't say this but it loads and runs in the explore route activity in MSTS.)

Any help will be appreciated.
Dave

PS: I'm running the X2669 version

[baldwin]

Bottom centre of the menu screen there is an Options button. Underneath that is a tick box labelled logging. If that is ticked a log of the session will be recorded and placed on the desktop. That log may point to the problem. Zip it up and post here.

[LionelDave]

I hope I attached it.

Dave

[OTTODAD]

I hope I attached it.

You can test whether you have by downloading it yourself !

[R. Steele]

I have downloaded the "Denver&Rio Grand western Cumbres Route ver 1.1" From Rail Serve.com. I downloaded from their routes section.

It seemed to install OK But when I try to explore the route in OR it starts ok I get the black screen with the OR logo in the center. Then nothing else happens and after waiting a while OP drops back to the opening screen.

Does any one know what is going wrong?

I have since installed the fixed for the route hoping it would solve the problem but I still get the same results. It acts like it is loading the route but drops back to the opening screen. (No comments no messages)
(I know I shouldn't say this but it loads and runs in the explore route activity in MSTS.)Any help will be appreciated.
Dave
PS: I'm running the X2669 version

It probably is the original paths.
Black screen at load with the OR logo is a sign that there is no load.ace with the route. You gotta make one or find one.
The Route loads fine in OR.
I got the same problem the with route. First thing I did was to make my own activity and path from Chama to Antonito, using MSTS AE. Called it New Activity.
I open the route in OR X2811 (also opens using X2659) just now using my own path and the new activity -- the route opened and ran fine. So there is nothing wrong with the route.
Rework the defaults paths or make new ones.

(I know I shouldn't say this but it loads and runs in the explore route activity in MSTS.)

You should always mention this, and always post your OR log and give all info you can...helps everyone understand and help with the problem. Just consider yourself among the many "volunteer" beta users and testers that are helping the OR team to design a modern railroad simulator.

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pardon the auto train at Chama - just a quick default consist was used for the test.

[LionelDave]

Well I'm in over my head. The file load.ace is missing and I copied 1 form 2 different routes and got the opening screen for those 2 routes (but my route didn't load) so I know your are right. My problem is that I have no idea how to create the file for this route. In addition I have yet to learn how to create an activity so I can't go that route.

I have to go to church tonight and will be back around 9 and maybe by then something will come to me.

Thanks for the information I now know what the problem is. just can't fix it.
Dave

[R. Steele]

Well I'm in over my head. The file load.ace is missing and I copied 1 form 2 different routes and got the opening screen for those 2 routes (but my route didn't load) so I know your are right. My problem is that I have no idea how to create the file for this route. In addition I have yet to learn how to create an activity so I can't go that route.

I have to go to church tonight and will be back around 9 and maybe by then something will come to me.

Thanks for the information I now know what the problem is. just can't fix it.
Dave

Dave, no problem, if you want to, PM me and I'll help.

A load.ace is just the picture that loads on the screen for you to look at when OR or MSTS is loading. If you use one from another route it wil show that picture when Cumbres loads. The black screen (absence of load.ace) had nothing to do with the route not loading.
If it's not there does not mean anything is wrong, you just have to look at the black screen. Possibly someone will have one and mention it.

One also may be in the library here at TS. I've been meaning to make one, so we can do that.
I've just learned how to do it in the past few months myself. Not a big deal.

As far as creating activites you find it helpful to learn the delights (tongue in cheek) of using the MSTS Activity Editor.
See the tutorials at Steam4Me and the threads, articles, and FAQ's here and at other forums.
Until an AE is specifically designed for OR that is what we have to use currently (exception: timetables, but thats another lesson)

[OTTODAD]

Installed it and its FIX, deleted all its activity and services files, created a new one, gave it my MP3Tracks and Kosmos environments and here it is running in MSTSBin and ORTS !

[R. Steele]

I found something curious, the path I made..chama to antonito runs okay.
When I tried loading and running the opposite path I made from antonito to chama I get the same problem as LionelDave encounters. Without the black screen, because I made a quick load.ace to take care of that.

So that needs some more looking at.
Maybe someone else could look at this. See if you can make a simple path from Antonito to Chama and have it load in OR X2811

The screenshot shows the current path for the test in this post. Started outside the wye near MP281
The previous path from antonito to chama, that also did not load in OR, was made from a point on the end of the top leg of the wye.
Like Dave, now I am out of my depth. Will need more investigation.

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OR log (ask for zip of entire log if needed)
Error: ORTS.Processes.ThreadHangException: Thread 'Loader Process' has hung; the consistent stack trace is shown below:
at ORTS.Simulator.InitializePlayerTrain() in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Experimental\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Simulato r\Simulator.cs:line 816
at ORTS.Simulator.InitializeTrains(LoaderProcess loader) in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Experimental\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Simulato r\Simulator.cs:line 362
at ORTS.Simulator.Start(LoaderProcess loader) in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Experimental\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Simulato r\Simulator.cs:line 259
at ORTS.Processes.GameStateRunActivity.Start(UserSett ings settings, String acttype, String[] args) in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Experimental\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Processe s\GameStateRunActivity.cs:line 274
at ORTS.Processes.GameStateRunActivity.<>c__DisplayCl ass8.<Load>b__3() in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Experimental\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Processe s\GameStateRunActivity.cs:line 149
at ORTS.Processes.GameStateRunActivity.Load() in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Experimental\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Processe s\GameStateRunActivity.cs:line 189
at ORTS.Processes.LoaderProcess.Load() in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Experimental\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Processe s\LoaderProcess.cs:line 155
at ORTS.Processes.LoaderProcess.DoLoad() in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Experimental\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Processe s\LoaderProcess.cs:line 136
at ORTS.Processes.LoaderProcess.LoaderThread() in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Experimental\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Processe s\LoaderProcess.cs:line 107
at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart_Context( Object state)
at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionCon text executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state)
at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart()

at ORTS.ORTraceListener.TraceEvent(TraceEventCache eventCache, String source, TraceEventType eventType, Int32 id, String format, Object[] args) in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Experimental\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Common\E rrorLogger.cs:line 124
at System.Diagnostics.TraceInternal.TraceEvent(TraceE ventType eventType, Int32 id, String format, Object[] args)
at System.Diagnostics.Trace.TraceError(String format, Object[] args)
at ORTS.ORTraceListener.WriteLine(Object o) in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Experimental\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Common\E rrorLogger.cs:line 206
at System.Diagnostics.TraceInternal.WriteLine(Object value)
at System.Diagnostics.Trace.WriteLine(Object value)
at ORTS.Processes.WatchdogProcess.WatchdogThread() in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Experimental\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Processe s\WatchdogProcess.cs:line 131
at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart_Context( Object state)
at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionCon text executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state)
at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart()

[OTTODAD]

In ORTS X.2822 I have created an activity to run from Antonito to Chama and ORTS started loading it, the white bar at the bottom stopping after moving about a quarter if its possible travel and after a while ORTS crashed back to its Menu screen.

No problem here as I prefer to run it in MSTSBin, there not being many scenery objects in the route which could benefit from ORTS showing them.

[crstagg]

Dave,

Why are you running ver 1.1? Ver 2.0 is in the library.

[crstagg]

Otto,
I notice that on the Open Rails menu in your post in the route description it says "Standard Gauge". The Standard Gauge version in the library here is ver 1.2.

Dave is running ver 1.1 which is also Standard Gauge version of the Route.

[LionelDave]

I got my version from "Denver&Rio Grand western Cumbres Route ver 1.1" From Rail Serve.com and it said std version which I think it is.

I did NOT know there was version 1.2. My mind is so messed up right now that I'm giving up. I really wanted the NG version

Thanks for trying to help I just wish I could follow what you are trying to tell me.
Maybe tomorrow night when I can look at this again I'll understand what your trying to tell me.
Good night
Dave

[R. Steele]

There is only one version at Railserve, a standard guage version 1.1 plus the fix which is just some ace files for TEXTURES and TERRTEX, and an .act file fix.
That is the one Dave indicated he was having problems with in his initial post.
This version does appear to have a problem with a path that starts in Antonito and ends in Chama, that occurs in all version of OR I have tried. OR's loader process gets hung and it dumps back to menu screen. I was going to search the reported bugs, possible it has not been reported. Maybe if an OR team member sees this thread they may be able to enlighten us.

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[R. Steele]

I got my version from "Denver&Rio Grand western Cumbres Route ver 1.1" From Rail Serve.com and it said std version which I think it is. I did NOT know there was version 1.2. My mind is so messed up right now that I'm giving up. I really wanted the NG version

Thanks for trying to help I just wish I could follow what you are trying to tell me.
Maybe tomorrow night when I can look at this again I'll understand what your trying to tell me.
Good night
Dave

I think (well I hope) everyone understands. Two people have duplicated your problem using the same route.
Perhaps a bug report is needed.
None of us appears to know what the problem is either.

You got the standard gauge version at Railserve. The narrow guage version is here at TS.

Search Routes using the name Andy Miller, you will be downloading ctsrrng1.zip through ctsrrng7.zip, plus a couple of other files. Follow the directions and you'll do fine.
You also may wish to check out Elvas Tower, there is quite a narrow guage group over there.
Also check out the narrow guage threads here. Get more information by frequenting both forums, lots of experience at both.