D&SL Moffat Road... Yeah this bug that has been around for over a year or two, is still present... OR only classes it as Medium and pretty much doesn't do anything else, would think a bug that prohibits a route being ran would be a pretty darn high priority rather than what lately has been done with more minor bug fixes like AI Smoke Emission Missing, a ' minor bug' in the Car Spawn, ProTrain Signal Animations(Only eyecandy), and other relatively minor things. It's, apparent OR Has no real interest in fixing a game-breaking issue, so, I'm going to be left to do with it myself. Where should I start? Attached is the OR Log file, but I can't make heads or tails of it and what the issue is/where it's located/etc.OpenRailsLog.txt
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I've had the problem also for more than a year. Before that the route ran just fine in OR. I believe I added my comments and an OpenRails.log to the Bug Tracker. The curious thing is Log file lists this Error "Error: System.IndexOutOfRangeException: Index was outside the bounds of the array.
at ORTS.Viewer3D.WaterPrimitive.LoadGeometry(Graphics Device graphicsDevice, Tile tile, Int32& primitiveCount, IndexBuffer& indexBuffer, VertexBuffer& vertexBuffer) in e:\Documents\Coding\Jenkins\jobs\Open Rails Experimental\workspace\Source\RunActivity\Viewer3D \Water.cs:line 97" but as far as I can see there is no water anywhere in this part of the route. (about 10 mi. west of Denver)
Anyway, this is a fine route (Thanks, Don) and I would love to to be able to run it again in OR. By the way, it fails for me in ANY activity or in Explore Mode also.
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Did you post your message over at the forum of Elvas Tower and am sure that you will get a quick response about this.
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No, I haven't posted at ET.. I use the OR section here, why we have one after all. Not to mention, can't get more direct than submitting the bug report to them either. They're -aware- of the situation, clearly.Comment
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It really depends on where you start and finish in the route. I just opened and ran an activity in this route using OR X2778. In fact I have been running this route ever since I asked about this last January (2014). I have several activities that run and also explore. The route does load in OR
There was a bug report opened then. (See Screenshots)
The problem lies within the route structure, and it affects activities that end or pass by Denver (don't hold me to that, it's from memory) but it is localized. Other areas of the route run just fine.
I have an activity that only goes through Rollins Pass and it runs fine with AI traffic on the main and on the pass.
The OR team is trying to clean up current bugs and other issues to be able to release V1.0. That's a lot of work and it requires some sort of organized approach, so not everything is going to be fixed in the order one may expect it to be. Patience, this is all volunteer work.
If you search Moffat at Elvas you'll get some more information.
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Odd. I can't do ANYTHING with this route... I tried running it(same OR version as you, X2778), from various starting places. Glenwood Springs, and Tabernash-Glenwood, and each time I got the error. And yes I understand OR is volunteer work... But in my opinion, a lot of the recent work has been unnecessary compared to serious issues like this. And again, I'm offering to get this crap taken care of myself but I need a way to go off about it. Same really for getting the #5 view to behave like the 3D Cab ALT1 view, such as having the 3D Cab's walk-around ability, and getting the camera placement to turn WITH the superelevation and take away the 'NASCAR gyracam' effect on the #5 and 3D Cab views, which TBH has me completely turned off of activating Superelevation... However such is at this poit a minor issue, compared to the Index bug which is 1 to 2 years outstanding.Comment
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I also have been running this route without problems. Flawless really!
Making guesses as to whats wrong is very frustrating plus the problems learning a new sim program.
Lots the same but there are differences.
Have you fully checked out the route, activities and stock by running the Route_Riter tests?
May I suggest you first lay a solid foundation by checking your route installation by running the Route_Riter tests
1. [CHECK ROUTE] 2. [ICHK] ( on the TSUtils Tab) and last the tests on the Activities Tab.
Once you have a route in place that passes all the diagnostic tests you can get to really enjoying Open Rails.
Right now you are running a guessing game trying to figure out if it's a game (route) problem or a sim (Open Rails) problem.
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After Vince's post I did a little detective work.
I ran through Route Riter again. There were no Errors
Starting at Grand Junction the route crashed.
I had distant mountains set on 50.
I turned off distant mountains and it worked.
Next I tried various settings for distant mountains. I found that the route would crash if distant mountains were set higher than 42.
Apparently the problem is related to the distant mountain settings.
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Interesting... I'll have to try that when I'm done on my current run on the Monon.
Also Vince: Would love to run it through RR, however I don't have MSTS installed anymore. Haven't had it for a long time, just the default routes for routes that need the shapes. And from what I remember at least, RR needs some file or other from the MSTS directory doesn't it?
Edit: yep, CONFIRMED, DM issue. Backed the DM down from 1K to 35, and we're runnin'!Last edited by Komachi; 01-12-2015, 12:25.Comment
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More information on my experiment.
I attempted a run from Grand Junction. Everything was fine for a while but just a couple of miles out the system crashed again. The setting for the Distant Mountains was at 40. I may have to try Komachi's setting of 35.Comment
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Interesting. I decided to test stuffs, and am still running it right now with a DM setting of 41, and started at Denver Union and am still on AMTK #5, in the Moffat Tunnel right now, approaching Winter Park in about 2 miles by my track monitor.. I'll see what happens when I get near Glenwood Springs and such around there.
Edit: New error this time, though similar stuff as I hit the town itself of Fraser. (Have to put the bloody log in a zip file because of ridiculously small file limits..) OpenRailsLog.zipLast edited by Komachi; 01-12-2015, 16:39.Comment
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An Open Rails log is better in a zip. It avoids having to scroll through long posts, and can be downloaded then referred to later without having to go back to a web site. A txt file while being as useful is a bit on the large side for most web sites like this one.Beer is not a matter of life or death, it is much more serious than that.Comment
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Interesting Stuff. My computer is normally happy with DM set to 100 on ALL routes. Tried DM at 35 going west from Denver and all works as it should. Lots of Crossings there but I am not seeing Komachi's latest error. Thankyou bprice for the easy work-around!
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I tried again at 35 and still got a crash, although I did get farther along. I was going east from west end.
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