Initial state of F5 HUD

[cjakeman]

The HUD has been visible by default - mostly so that problems illustrated by a screenshot are more likely to have the HUD visible.

Now that we are travelling fast towards v1.0, the Dev Team has changed the initial state from visible to hidden - more tidy/better looking that way.

There will be a totally new GUI fairly soon, though not in time for v1.0.

Chris
OR Dev

[OTTODAD]

There will be a totally new GUI fairly soon, though not in time for v1.0.

I hope that the basic version of it shows only essential for driving a train data like MSTS and my modded ones do !

[cjakeman]

Yes, Otto. We will continue to provide the minimal HUD.

[OTTODAD]

Yes, Otto. We will continue to provide the minimal HUD.

Thanks, Chris, looking forward to it !

[woodfyr]

Hud in X2738 is hidden, except when called for. Hud (F5 and various Shift F5s) are essential in OR. Getting used to the braking conventions coupled with op modes can be a BEAR!

[OTTODAD]

Hud in X2738 is hidden, except when called for. Hud (F5 and various Shift F5s) are essential in OR. Getting used to the braking conventions coupled with op modes can be a BEAR!

All that has been changed in X.2738 is not to show the F5-Hud at the start of an activity, having to call it up by pressing F5 !

Before it was possible to turn it off with F5.

What I have asked for is to reduce the number of lines showing by default or with the first press of F5 and not to have it removed altogether !

[UP_4848_Thunder]

I was wondering why most of it disappeared, now I can't see my locos fuel burning rate in gallons or see the number of my slack bunched or stretched etc.

[baldwin]

The thinking behind these changes to the HUD are first of all pressing F5 to access it is normal MSTS method. Second, the first page is there to provide the minimum required to drive the train. All information not shown there can be accessed via the appropriate SHIFT/F5 page. The original HUD only gave you the fuel rate for the lead locomotive, but the Locomotive Information page will show you that for all locomotives in your consist.

[seagoon]

I was wondering why most of it disappeared, now I can't see my locos fuel burning rate in gallons or see the number of my slack bunched or stretched etc.

Do you people (your good-self and Otto )actually understand the many sequences of the F5 HUD?

If you read through the Update log, and/or scroll through the F1 Keypress list (you know how to access that, don't you?) then you wouldn't be whinging about missing information.....which isn't missing at all.

[UP_4848_Thunder]

Do you people (your good-self and Otto )actually understand the many sequences of the F5 HUD?

If you read through the Update log, and/or scroll through the F1 Keypress list (you know how to access that, don't you?) then you wouldn't be whinging about missing information.....which isn't missing at all.

I been using, experimenting, reporting bugs, giving ideas for ORTS a long time an liked all the info through the numbers of the F5 HUD debugging info through an through a lot of testing making changes to all my stock, cabs etc. I was just wondering why in the first press of F5 of the latest experimental I downloaded that it became missing a number of past good displayed info on the first press than found this thread an seen that Otto requested it an it happened. Now see it's not too happy of a thing to him.

But not a problem anymore as I seen what it was. As we look forward to new cvf stuff being possible to be away from HUD looking an new alt+F5 info changing of what we want an how we want the HUD to be shown in various ways, I still deeply respect the work being put into this development an hold even more on my projects till satisfaction to release an share.

[OTTODAD]

I found this thread an seen that Otto requested it an it happened. Now see it's not too happy of a thing to him.

Lets get this straight !

I have requested that what the F5-Hud should display by default to start with is what most need to see in order to drive trains when not inside the a cab, I have shown in an earlier post, like the MSTS F5-Hud does shown below.

If players want to see more then all they have to do is to display it be pressing SHIFT-F5 repeatedly, MSTS does by just pressing F5 again to show all its F5-Hud screens.

Also shown below is my version of the basic MSTS F5-Hud, other versions of the default one to be shown by pressing F5 again !

[OTTODAD]

Its latest version, much improved now !

THANKS !

[Vince]

Open Rails Team,

I'd prefer to see the two coupler lines returned.

If you are running actual coupler force values rather that the impossible values needed for running routes with the MSTS TrNode length problem (Cutbank Coupler Syndrome), these values become important for proper train handling.

Coupler break force values above the current FRA Class E Shock Load of 2.22E6N (500,000lbs) are unrealistic and are not needed when running ORTS

For example the DHAlco pa engine file has this: Break ( 5.1e7N 5.1e7N ) That's >50,000,000 lbs. break force!
Yes, this value was required to run certain routes under MSTS. This is no longer a problem with ORTS.

I have set all my coupler values to the 2.22E6N FRA shock load setting.
I have broken several couplers but it was due to sloppy train handling on my part.

[Claude350]

I agree with you Vince. I wish I knew how to add it back to the HUD.

[R. Steele]

I have set all my coupler values to the 2.22E6N FRA shock load setting.

Vince, three questions:
1. What would be the difference between 2.22E6N and using 2.2e7N?
2. Would the correct way to enter it in the eng or wag file be Break (2.22e6N 2.22e6N ) or use caps E (does it matter)?
3. Is the value entered twice after Break - one for each coupler - front and rear?

Thanks