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  • ATSFFAN
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    • Aug 2005
    • 83
    • Manteca, California, United States.

    #16
    I found it. I did a test run with the activity I was having issues with and it worked great!! Thank you Andrey-aka: UP_4848_Thunder.

    =ATSFFAN=

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    • UP_4848_Thunder
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      • Nov 2008
      • 370
      • Alhambra Sub MP 484/ Southern California
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      #17
      Your Welcome. Glad I can help.
      A RR Mad Lip: It's Better Not 2 Show un Finished work when the work isn't Complete Proudly then getting let down about it When Posting & telling as it's Boldly Not SaFe 2 Urr Progress or Suportive Parents as it is to Post Regularly Round. Stay.Secretly.Working. & it will Keep it Civil and Safe from Gimme Pigs & Strike Downers

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      • Timbit
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        • Nov 1999
        • 448
        • Nepean,Ontario
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        #18
        ATSFFAN,
        Great to hear that you have got your problem solved, for some reason mine has not been fixed, but I think it might be something else as I have done everything that has been said and still I'm at the same corner, so I'm going to step back and maybe something will come to me and I will be able to figure it out? and thanks to all who have shared there thoughts and ideas.
        Merry Christmas
        Tim

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        • UP_4848_Thunder
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          • Nov 2008
          • 370
          • Alhambra Sub MP 484/ Southern California
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          #19
          Tim one question... What season have you been trying this on? Summer I just realized is ok but other seasons like spring winter autumn make cars an some scenery blank. Need to report it.
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          • Timbit
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            • Nov 1999
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            #20
            Hi,
            Sorry for the delay, I was in the process of getting a new video card ( GTX 970 )and have just did some testing , the car in question is by ATW and is (DTTX 742640 5 pack container car ) that I seem to be having the problem, where I run it in an activity that starts at 04.40 in the fall and the A and B end are fine but the three cars in the middle are blanked out , but the containers inside the cars are fine ?
            I then took the same consist and ran it in explore in fall and winter at different times with the same results ?

            Tim

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            • mword77
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              • Aug 2003
              • 303
              • Massachusetts
              • General

              #21
              I have the same issues with the same cars. This pic on the East Metro route in the fall shows it. Everything appears fine in the summer mode, but fall triggers the loss of the main shape textures. The LAA box checked or unchecked has no effect. I may try and resize the textures down to 1024, but there's a lot of them so probably not lol.
              Attached Files
              -Mike

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              • UP_4848_Thunder
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                • Nov 2008
                • 370
                • Alhambra Sub MP 484/ Southern California
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                #22
                Problem found an solved on my end for what I'm sure everyone has been wishing for if you look at this topic an pic in it http://www.elvastower.com/forums/ind...66#entry168466


                Last edited by UP_4848_Thunder; 12-25-2014, 19:48.
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                • UP_4848_Thunder
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                  • Nov 2008
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                  #23
                  Better view an comparison.

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                  • mword77
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                    • Aug 2003
                    • 303
                    • Massachusetts
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                    #24
                    I've looked at this and the other thread at Elvas now a couple of times and I still can't make any sense of what you posted. Run-on sentences and the inability to spell 'and' aside, am I to guess that the 'fix' involves adding textures to a seasonal folder? I really like these cars and would love to use them more, but if I can't get them to show up then I'll have to move on I suppose.
                    -Mike

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                    • UP_4848_Thunder
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                      • Nov 2008
                      • 370
                      • Alhambra Sub MP 484/ Southern California
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                      #25
                      Was making a tutorial but all I can start out saying is go into the cars folder that becomes blank an make a new folder in it an name it the season that it becomes blank like Winter an copy its textures into the folder 1 by 1 testing an loading to see when you are satisfied.

                      I back than was making my cars, locos thinking of some day adding them to a route as scenery an of course I wanted them to have different seasons of textures so with TSM I added season changing textures an with ORTS was in this texture missing problem an kept experimenting etc... than it came to my mind Christmas Day to see what happens if I do this by adding a winter season folder to my tweaked test unit SD70M folder an put ace textures 1 by 1 in there an than textures started loading up in Winter Clear an I made a snowy texture an got blown away.

                      But one thing came up is they didn't load in Winter snow an than I did the same thing by copying Winter folder textures an made a WinterSnow folder an than pasted them there an again they loaded. But if one doesn't want to waste space with duplicated season folders with precipitation just load them in clear none rain snow folder than add precipitation in ORTS with alt+P an textures will stay as loaded. With this find an for future releases of more ATWells I can make my cars/locos an textures have various seasons that I can even make one for my unit being regular painted in folder being Summer. In Spring I can make them dirty or even vandalized in another season, Winter with minimum snow an for WinterSnow have lots of snow

                      Season folders Winter, WinterSnow, Spring, SpringSnow or just a Snow folder for all etc... still more to experiment.




                      Yes English typing sucks when your rushing excited or love making people guess.
                      Last edited by UP_4848_Thunder; 12-27-2014, 22:36.
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                      • dcarleton
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                        • Nov 2008
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by UP_4848_Thunder
                        I wanted them to have different seasons of textures so with TSM I added season changing textures
                        The variable for changing textures according to season is saved in the .SD file. Is the variable for ESD_Alternative_Texture set to ( 0 ) in the .SD file? If not, try changing it to ( 0 ) and see what happens.

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                        • ATSFFAN
                          Member
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 83
                          • Manteca, California, United States.

                          #27
                          Originally posted by dcarleton
                          The variable for changing textures according to season is saved in the .SD file. Is the variable for ESD_Alternative_Texture set to ( 0 ) in the .SD file? If not, try changing it to ( 0 ) and see what happens.
                          I tried setting ESD_Alternative_Texture set to ( 0 ) . I did only one well set as a comparison so the ones behind it are still blank. I also set the activity to Winter. Here is a screenshot. As you can see it worked.

                          =ATSFFAN=
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                          • mword77
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                            • Aug 2003
                            • 303
                            • Massachusetts
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by dcarleton
                            The variable for changing textures according to season is saved in the .SD file. Is the variable for ESD_Alternative_Texture set to ( 0 ) in the .SD file? If not, try changing it to ( 0 ) and see what happens.
                            Thanks David, that did the trick. Set the .sd 'ESD_Alternative_Texture' parameter on the problem cars to '0' and that fixed it.
                            Thanks guys for the help on this and thanks Andrey for the sweet 53' well cars in the first place!
                            Attached Files
                            -Mike

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                            • dredick
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 922

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Timbit
                              ...the car in question is by ATW and is (DTTX 742640 5 pack container car )
                              Noticed that 724650's (found in atwellsoceanset4.zip) ESD Alternative Texture Entry in the SD file was 252, so set it to 0.

                              742640 is found in atwellsoceanset5.zip.

                              Spot checking other files in the megapack, it appears that there are other cars affected by this so for anyone who has this "15-pack", and is experiencing this same issue will probably need to go through each and every SD file to ensure that the ESD_Alternative_Texture entry is set to 0.

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                              • UP_4848_Thunder
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                                • Nov 2008
                                • 370
                                • Alhambra Sub MP 484/ Southern California
                                • General

                                #30
                                That's another nice find to get rid of the cars from being blanks in a season an saving space... Thanks for the find. But I'm still making some of them have special season textures representing an environment. Wonder why ORTS just doesn't go to present textures if a season one is missing.
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