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  • Timbit
    Senior Member


    • Nov 1999
    • 448
    • Nepean,Ontario
    • English
    • MSOR

    #1

    Blank Freight Cars

    Hi,
    Can someone please tell me how I might go about fixing this problem that I have with a few of my freight cars, where they are blank and I have tested them in Conbuilder and Route Riter to see if I'm missing any files and they come up with no problems you can see that I have a Gon and a CenterBeam in the train that are blank, the Gon is a GONX from a pack and all the other cars in the pack are fine but for some reason the GONX are does this ?
    Any help would be great.

    Thanks Tim
  • dredick
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2003
    • 922

    #2
    Conbuilder doesn't test for texture problems, unfortunately.

    The best way to track down these kind of errors is to open the shape file in SFM and look in the "images" section to see what files it is calling for, and see if they are in the folder the car is in.

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    • Timbit
      Senior Member


      • Nov 1999
      • 448
      • Nepean,Ontario
      • English
      • MSOR

      #3
      dredick,
      thanks I will give that a try .

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      • bandorr2000
        Senior Member

        • Feb 2005
        • 608
        • Cinnaminson, New Jersey, USA.

        #4
        Opening in Shape Viewer and selecting View, Textures for a given shape will also show you what is missing.
        Glenn Duba
        Cinnaminson, NJ

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        • ATSFFAN
          Member
          • Aug 2005
          • 83
          • Manteca, California, United States.

          #5
          I have had the same problem. I even posted about it.



          While I was able to reduce some of it, I was not able to totally solve it. Since I have not seen to many people posting about this problem, I suspect it has something more to do with the graphics card that we are using on our end more than anything else. I was not exactly using a high end card. I did notice that as I progressed longer in the activity in question it got worse. I should note also I had a large number of loose consists and a fair number of AI trains. The route in question was Cajon Pass 3 Main Lines. My computer specs are as follows-
          Windows 7 Home Premium (64 bit)
          AMD FX 6120 Six core processor- 3.5 GHZ per core
          10 gb memory
          EVGA Nvidia Geforce GT 610-2 GB DDR3 memory
          Creative Lab Soundblaster X-Fi Titanuim

          It might help if you post your computer specs also so we know what you are working with.

          =ATSFFAN=



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          • Timbit
            Senior Member


            • Nov 1999
            • 448
            • Nepean,Ontario
            • English
            • MSOR

            #6
            this is what is under the hood on my machine
            Windows 7 Home Premium (64 bit)
            Intel (R) xeon (R) CPU E5504@2.00GHZ
            8GB memory
            Video Card NVIDA GE Force GTX 650Ti
            I use open rails and will try these in MSTS.
            Tim

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            • UP_4848_Thunder
              Senior Member

              • Nov 2008
              • 370
              • Alhambra Sub MP 484/ Southern California
              • General

              #7
              Try checking in settings "Large Address Aware Binaries" an it should fix the problem but beware if your graphics card isn't 3GB or more of memory. ORTS standard without this checked is 2GB where it will make cars appear blank because its limiting the textures of both cars an scenery to not exceed 2GB total to protect from stressing your card too much an is no loading back unless you exit back to menu.
              A RR Mad Lip: It's Better Not 2 Show un Finished work when the work isn't Complete Proudly then getting let down about it When Posting & telling as it's Boldly Not SaFe 2 Urr Progress or Suportive Parents as it is to Post Regularly Round. Stay.Secretly.Working. & it will Keep it Civil and Safe from Gimme Pigs & Strike Downers

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              • baldwin
                6000 Post Veteran


                • Nov 1999
                • 6358
                • Chippenham, Wiltshire, UK.
                • ORTS

                #8
                Which set is the problem with. I have a GTX650TI and only have the missing texture problem if there are a lot of 4096x4096 textures on the train.
                Beer is not a matter of life or death, it is much more serious than that.

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                • Timbit
                  Senior Member


                  • Nov 1999
                  • 448
                  • Nepean,Ontario
                  • English
                  • MSOR

                  #9
                  One of the sets is a container set for open rails by ATW and at night the container cars are blank but the containers inside show up ok and if you take the same consists and run it in the day time everything is fine?
                  Tim

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                  • baldwin
                    6000 Post Veteran


                    • Nov 1999
                    • 6358
                    • Chippenham, Wiltshire, UK.
                    • ORTS

                    #10
                    Well, there are 10 ATWell sets to choose from, and what filename contains the problem GONX cars?
                    Beer is not a matter of life or death, it is much more serious than that.

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                    • Timbit
                      Senior Member


                      • Nov 1999
                      • 448
                      • Nepean,Ontario
                      • English
                      • MSOR

                      #11
                      Im not at home right now, but I think that it is the Dttx 742650 or 660 that I'm ha I g this problem?
                      Tim

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                      • markus1996
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 203
                        • Leoben, Styria, Austria, Europe

                        #12
                        The problem you are seeing is likely, as was mentioned, caused by some memory problem. Using LAA (Large Address Aware) binaries, as provided in the options, is one possible way to at least alleviate the problem. If that doesn´t help, try with fewer AIs and / or static consists.

                        The goal of this all is to get more memory available for program use, either by increasing the memory th program can use, or reducing the amount of memory the program actually uses, or both.

                        There are more ways to help with the problem, but those would include file editing, IE sizing down the textures and so on. Not necessary, as long as there are other options to try.

                        Cheers, Markus
                        sigpic

                        Trains. Trains? Trains! =)
                        I usually hang out at www.elvastower.com (markus_GE).
                        Also take a look at my homepage: http://mgelbmann.jimdo.com/

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                        • ATSFFAN
                          Member
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 83
                          • Manteca, California, United States.

                          #13
                          Where and how do you access "Large Address Aware Binaries" on my computer? I would like to give it a try.

                          =ATSFFAN=

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                          • markus1996
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 203
                            • Leoben, Styria, Austria, Europe

                            #14
                            It´s in the options of ORTS, but I forget on which tab. Should be either General, or Experimental, but please check the other tabs too if you can´t find it in the ones I mentioned.

                            Cheers, Markus
                            sigpic

                            Trains. Trains? Trains! =)
                            I usually hang out at www.elvastower.com (markus_GE).
                            Also take a look at my homepage: http://mgelbmann.jimdo.com/

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                            • UP_4848_Thunder
                              Senior Member

                              • Nov 2008
                              • 370
                              • Alhambra Sub MP 484/ Southern California
                              • General

                              #15
                              Yes it's in the first General Tab of ORTS Options. I had the same issue with my own ATWells over 70 cars of un duplicated cars an ORTS implemented the "RunactivityLAA.exe" large address aware an cleared the problem. Since than I have had no problems with it an even got a 4GB AMD Radeon(TM) HD8970M.
                              A RR Mad Lip: It's Better Not 2 Show un Finished work when the work isn't Complete Proudly then getting let down about it When Posting & telling as it's Boldly Not SaFe 2 Urr Progress or Suportive Parents as it is to Post Regularly Round. Stay.Secretly.Working. & it will Keep it Civil and Safe from Gimme Pigs & Strike Downers

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