avoiding "wheel slipping"?

[freeway2]

Hi,
Is there a way to simplify driving a train in Open Rails so I won't get called for "wheel slipping? Right now, I just want to get to a part of the route fast and see what it looks like in Open Rails.


Thanks to everyone working on this great game!
Tom

[R. Steele]

Hi,
Is there a way to simplify driving a train in Open Rails so I won't get called for "wheel slipping? Right now, I just want to get to a part of the route fast and see what it looks like in Open Rails.
Thanks to everyone working on this great game!
Tom

I can't address the wheel slippage (other than it's a normal part of operations.
There are some engine parameter lines dealing with wheel slip- see the Engine Manual by Rudolf Richter and Joe Realmuto (coauthor) for more informations and threads on subject here and other forums)

You can use the free roaming camera (#8) to move to anyplace on the route in the simulation.
Another alternative is to speed up the game - see Options>Keyboard>Debug for keyboard controls (on the main OR window menu to left of start button)

[Vince]

You can modify the engine file you're using so it cannot slip. How? Read in the MSTS Tech Docs engine file section. That's where I found the info on how to do this and many other mods also.

[seagoon]

Go into Options and adjust the adhesion level.

[baldwin]

seagoon has the right answer. MSTS adheasion does not work in OR.

[R. Steele]

Go into Options and adjust the adhesion level.

For those among us (includes meself) that aren't sure exactly what you are referring to, please specifiy
No adjustment under Options for "Adhesion Level" actually exists
You will find the following under Options:
1. Simulation Tab - Advanced adhesion model
Numerical Adjustment for "Adhesion moving adverage filter size"

2. Experimental Tab
Slider bar for "Adhesion Factor Correction - default 130%
Slider bar for "Adhesion Factor Random Change - default 14% (hard)
Checkbox for "Adhesion proportional to rain/snow/fog

Suggested settings to start with would also be helpful. Thank You.

[markus1996]

Gerry´s point 2 is the solution: Max out the sliders, so you get better friction, and turn of the proportional adhesion checkbox.


However, when you go back to wanting to run trains in a realistic way, don´t forget to move the sliders back again, if you want realistic wheel slippage.

Cheers, Markus

[baldwin]

For those among us (includes meself) that aren't sure exactly what you are referring to, please specifiy
No adjustment under Options for "Adhesion Level" actually exists
You will find the following under Options:
1. Simulation Tab - Advanced adhesion model
Numerical Adjustment for "Adhesion moving adverage filter size"

2. Experimental Tab
Slider bar for "Adhesion Factor Correction - default 130%
Slider bar for "Adhesion Factor Random Change - default 14% (hard)
Checkbox for "Adhesion proportional to rain/snow/fog

Suggested settings to start with would also be helpful. Thank You.

The settings you use for the adhesion sliders is a matter of choice. Left slider all the way right and right slider all the way left will give very sticky adhesion, even higher than MSTS.

I use 100% on the left slider,10% on the right slider and have the proportional for weather box checked. That makes driving interesting, and sometimes a real battle when on a grade with a heavy load in snow or rain.

[R. Steele]

Thanks to both markus1966 ( Hi ) and baldwin for the answers, learned something. Turns out that is just about where my sliders are positioned at.

Hope freeway2 (thread starter) sees this information.

[seagoon]

For those among us (includes meself) that aren't sure exactly what you are referring to, please specifiy
No adjustment under Options for "Adhesion Level" actually exists.....

What you then went on to mention - and what additional posts mentioned - is that to which I was referring.

[markus1996]

The settings you use for the adhesion sliders is a matter of choice. Left slider all the way right and right slider all the way left will give very sticky adhesion, even higher than MSTS.

I use 100% on the left slider,10% on the right slider and have the proportional for weather box checked. That makes driving interesting, and sometimes a real battle when on a grade with a heavy load in snow or rain.

Oops, exactly. The left slider should be maxed out, the left slider set to 0 for maximum adhesion. My fault, typed before I thought.

Cheers, Markus

[freeway2]

Sorry I was away from the computer for a few days, but I want to thank everyone for all their generous help and good suggestions!
Tom

[conrail4129]

I couldn't help but notice this thread and was having a similar inquiry as the original poster of this thread, I also have a question that is semi-on-topic enough to keep in this thread.. I also couldn't help to notice that there were multiple times that if I were to put on the sander a display would read "Sander Blocked" if I had the F5 info panel open on the last line. I'd like to ask since I'm relatively new to ORTS what is the premise behind this?

Patrick

[R. Steele]

Concerning the sander: there are different answers to this depending upon the details of the engine you are using and other factors. So without those specifics it's hard to say.

First, check this: in some engine files a sander lower limit is set - if the loco is over that speed the sander will not engage. This is not an OR problem but is in the .eng file. A good place to start learning about MSTS eng files is this document:
Manual for .eng and .wag files of the MS Train Simulator 1.0 (manual Ver 2.0e ) Rudolf Richter and Joe Realmuto
found here: http://msts.steam4me.net/utilities/index.html#engwag

While there, check everything out and bookmark, this site is an excellent resource for all problems MSTS, and contains links to most all of the utilities needed.

[crstagg]

I couldn't help but notice this thread and was having a similar inquiry as the original poster of this thread, I also have a question that is semi-on-topic enough to keep in this thread.. I also couldn't help to notice that there were multiple times that if I were to put on the sander a display would read "Sander Blocked" if I had the F5 info panel open on the last line. I'd like to ask since I'm relatively new to ORTS what is the premise behind this?

Patrick

How fast were you traveling? Most ENGs only allow sander to work below 12-17 mph. Look for "Sanding ( ## )" in the ENG file that is the cut-off speed.