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  • ckawahara
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2002
    • 827

    #1

    X2635 and PRR Eastern Region

    Is it my pc setup or is it OR? That is what I am trying to resolve.
    PRR ER is the version in the file library. It runs in MSTS.
    Has anyone been able to run PRR ER with OR x2635?
  • erielackawanna
    Senior Member
    • Nov 1999
    • 245
    • Jct of the NS Southern Tier an, New York.

    #2
    Hello Craig,

    I am able to run the PRR Eastern Region Route using OR x2635.

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    • OTTODAD
      1
      • Feb 2001
      • 32344
      • England
      • General

      #3
      I am the one who has helped the PRR team years ago to fix its problems so that it can be further developed into the stand-alone MSTSBin MINI route it is today.

      Here is the 2013 version's Cold Drag to Enola activity running in MSTSBin:
      http://www.otto-wipfel.co.uk/video/prr-coal-drag.wmv

      and trying to load it and other activities in ORTS it crashes.

      OpenRailsLog.txt

      Could anybody who has it running in ORTS please show us a screenshot !






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      • erielackawanna
        Senior Member
        • Nov 1999
        • 245
        • Jct of the NS Southern Tier an, New York.

        #4
        Hello,

        Using OR v2638, I am able to run a train at the start of the "Coal Drag to Enola" activity. I excited the activity, after a few seconds into it.

        Please find enclosed a screenshot from the activity.

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        • OTTODAD
          1
          • Feb 2001
          • 32344
          • England
          • General

          #5
          Thanks for showing that it runs in the ORTS X.2638 I have to wait for until Friday.

          Where did you get the PRR from ?

          I installed its MINI from the CD I got from my friend Ron Picardi in 2013 !

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          • erielackawanna
            Senior Member
            • Nov 1999
            • 245
            • Jct of the NS Southern Tier an, New York.

            #6
            Hi Otto,

            I received the PRR Eastern Region Route on DVD from one of the members of the PRR Eastern track team.

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            • MIKEinNE
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2007
              • 451
              • NE

              #7
              As one of the main designers of the PRR-ER, I just tried it on the OR. Although the frame rates are better than MSTS, I crashed more often in OR than MSTS. There are some places that OR does not like the way the signals are set up (the area between Philly north to Overbrook, for example). I recommend that, if you want to run the route, stick with MSTS.

              Check this out: https://www.trainsim.com/vbts/showth...at-least-to-me
              Last edited by MIKEinNE; 11-12-2014, 09:53.

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              • R. Steele
                3500 Post Veteran

                • Feb 2013
                • 3928
                • known universe
                • ORTS

                #8
                Hi people, also have no problem running the PRR East Reg in OR. Ran the complete Enola Coal Drag a while back in X2500 and just loaded it again in X2631. My version of the US Army Supply Train act also runs well. Ran it with 26AI Traffic trains in OR X2378.

                I have two different installs for the PRR East Reg - one for the complete route and another just for the PRR East Reg Template Version, both run well in OR - so far any X version I am currently running. It is such a fine route! Thanks for helping to make it a reality Otto, kudos.
                Edit: Whoops forgot to mention, in X2631 the activity starts with player train running! - not stopped.
                Image00001.jpgImage00002.jpg
                Last edited by R. Steele; 11-11-2014, 20:44.
                Cheers, Gerry
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                It's my railroad and I'll do what I want! Historically accurate attitude of US Railroad Barons.
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                • R. Steele
                  3500 Post Veteran

                  • Feb 2013
                  • 3928
                  • known universe
                  • ORTS

                  #9
                  Originally posted by MIKEinNE
                  As one of the main designers of the PRR-ER, I just tried it on the OR. Although the frame rates are better than MSTS, I crashed more often in OR than MSTS. There are some places that OR does not like the way the signals are set up (the area between Philly north to Overbrook, for example). I recommend that, if you want to run the route, stick with MSTS.
                  Also, much thanks to you for the route. It is a gem.
                  I have never had a crash in OR while running the PRR-ER (nice shorthand). So I'll try the area between Philly north to Overbrook to see what happens. Any specifics you think I'll need. Specific Activity, Consist, start - stop point, etc.?
                  Cheers, Gerry
                  "A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open." Frank Zappa
                  It's my railroad and I'll do what I want! Historically accurate attitude of US Railroad Barons.
                  Forever, ridin' drag in railroad knowledge.
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                  • ckawahara
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 827

                    #10
                    File size differences

                    Comparing the file sizes between my PRR ER install against that of another user's installation which runs, shows that there a few bytes difference in the file sizes.

                    The .RDB 14,236 vs 14241. .RIT 1563 vs 1567. Are these differences due to the setup of the pc's?

                    Are these differing versions of PRR a possibilty?

                    Has anyone gotten the file library version here at TS to run in OR x2635?
                    Last edited by ckawahara; 11-11-2014, 21:14.

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                    • R. Steele
                      3500 Post Veteran

                      • Feb 2013
                      • 3928
                      • known universe
                      • ORTS

                      #11
                      My PRR-ER install is from the file library, was one of the first routes I ever installed (along with the Monon) when I began interest in train sim about March 2013. (I do not recommend that way to begin, it was quite a learning curve installing those two routes). PRR-ER Template Version is from a download provided once you meet the template authors requirements (which are quite fair).

                      Two Screenshots - One shows the specs for my install of PRR-ER (installed from library files here) and the numbers I have for rdb and rit match your first numbers - 14236 and 1536 respectively.

                      The other shows my current progress Philly North to Overbrook. Just made a simple activity started at North Philly interlock to Overbrook and beyond. Currently at Merion with no problems. Running at around 50fps. Will take a break and continue later. Running X2631 (I only download experimentals every Friday - in between is not worth it, to me)

                      Take a note of the new digital numbers on the digital speed readout - trying the Quartz MS typeface and using the OR specific font line in the CVF file - as follows:
                      Digital (
                      Type ( SPEEDOMETER DIGITAL )
                      Position ( 573 128 32 32 )
                      ScaleRange ( 0 99 )
                      Accuracy ( 1 )
                      AccuracySwitch ( 0 )
                      LeadingZeros ( 0 )
                      Justification ( 3 )
                      PositiveColour ( 1
                      ControlColour ( 210 0 0 )
                      )
                      NegativeColour ( 0 )
                      DecreaseColour ( 0 )
                      Units ( MILES_PER_HOUR )
                      ORTSfont ( 10 0 "Quartz MS" )
                      )

                      Merion.jpgPRR-ER_Specs.jpg
                      Cheers, Gerry
                      "A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open." Frank Zappa
                      It's my railroad and I'll do what I want! Historically accurate attitude of US Railroad Barons.
                      Forever, ridin' drag in railroad knowledge.
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                      • R. Steele
                        3500 Post Veteran

                        • Feb 2013
                        • 3928
                        • known universe
                        • ORTS

                        #12
                        I am past Overbrook, nearing Wayne on the PRR-ER, using OR X2631 and have not had a single problem, clear all the way. No crashes of any sort, nor signal problems, nothing. Save and resume works fine, fps is running from a low of 29 to high of 63, mostly around the mid 50s for most of the way.
                        Attached screenshot from Dispatch Window shows start point, path in green, player train at "0" where I stopped before this post. PRR-ER Path.jpg
                        Attached Files
                        Cheers, Gerry
                        "A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open." Frank Zappa
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                        • MIKEinNE
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 451
                          • NE

                          #13
                          No, you should encounter a signal error that will stop your train (of any sort) if you run a train fro0m 30th street over the bridge at Overbrook. The error is discussed some where in the files here. No problems from Pittsburgh to Harrisburg. I stillprefer usig MSTS because it is more forgiving than OR of some of our errors. Run the route on the program, that causes the least crashes.

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                          • baldwin
                            6000 Post Veteran


                            • Nov 1999
                            • 6358
                            • Chippenham, Wiltshire, UK.
                            • ORTS

                            #14
                            Mike,

                            I set up a path from 30th street to Paoli. My train runs through Overbrook in Open rails with no errors. When you refer to a bridge at Overbrook, do you mean where the line diverges at the end of Overbrook storage yard?. If so, not tried that way yet.

                            Mervyn
                            Beer is not a matter of life or death, it is much more serious than that.

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                            • OTTODAD
                              1
                              • Feb 2001
                              • 32344
                              • England
                              • General

                              #15
                              Have deleted all PRR-ER activities, paths, services and traffic and created a new one running from North-East to North-West of the route and it runs alright in MSTSBin but does not run at all in ORTS.

                              Replaced that consist with the Decapod steam train and the same happened trying to run it in ORTS.

                              This is running it on my WIN-XP SP3, i5, 4GB RAM, nVidia GT-640, 700GB Samsung SSD computer, nothing other than the Internet Firefox-33.1 and Kaspersky-2014 running on it and then shutting them down making no difference in ORTS.

                              Like Mike said, it will be best not to run complex MSTSBin routes with non-default complex rolling stock in ORTS just yet until it has been worked on some more !

                              Shall try the next ORTS-X release on Friday using my new activity once more !





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