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  • baldwin
    6000 Post Veteran


    • Nov 1999
    • 6358
    • Chippenham, Wiltshire, UK.
    • ORTS

    #31
    Using X2634 here and loading the Drive the Broadway activity on the PRR Eastern, I have no problems.
    Beer is not a matter of life or death, it is much more serious than that.

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    • crstagg
      4500 Post Veteran


      • Nov 1999
      • 4885
      • Huntsville, AL
      • Texan
      • MSOR

      #32
      No problems here with loading PRR with OR v2634.

      System Gigabytes GA-870-UD3
      Win 7 Pro
      AMD Phenom 955
      8GB RAM
      NVIDA GT430
      1GB VRAM
      OR & MSTS Installs on a 240GB SSD
      Charles

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      • erielackawanna
        Senior Member
        • Nov 1999
        • 245
        • Jct of the NS Southern Tier an, New York.

        #33
        Hi everyone,

        I stand corrected.

        Further investigation has led me to discover that running OR minimized to my taskbar while loading a route causes OR to crash. This is probably a separate issue than the aforementioned one. I like to run OR mimimized to the taskbar while the the program loads a route, as I get bored with looking at the route loading screen. I also like to multitask.
        Last edited by erielackawanna; 11-09-2014, 18:53.

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        • baldwin
          6000 Post Veteran


          • Nov 1999
          • 6358
          • Chippenham, Wiltshire, UK.
          • ORTS

          #34
          Running minimised and multi tasking is the problem and is not the fault of OR. Operating in that way removes focus from OR onto whatever you are doing instead, so the OS reduces the cpu priority of OR to give prominence to the process you are working on.
          Beer is not a matter of life or death, it is much more serious than that.

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          • OTTODAD
            1
            • Feb 2001
            • 32344
            • England
            • General

            #35
            Originally posted by erielackawanna
            Further investigation has led me to discover that running OR minimized to my taskbar while loading a route causes OR to crash.
            Which keyboard shortcut keys lets you do that when a large ORTS activity is loading slowly whether or not your keyboard has special Windows keys between the Ctrl and Alt keys, my WIN-XP SP3 computer's older special programmers keyboard has not and does not work with my WIN-7 computer which has them on its keyboard ?

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            • erielackawanna
              Senior Member
              • Nov 1999
              • 245
              • Jct of the NS Southern Tier an, New York.

              #36
              Originally posted by OTTODAD


              Which keyboard shortcut keys lets you do that when a large ORTS activity is loading slowly whether or not your keyboard has special Windows keys between the Ctrl and Alt keys, my WIN-XP SP3 computer's older special programmers keyboard has not and does not work with my WIN-7 computer which has them on its keyboard ?
              Hi Otto,

              I sometimes run OR in a minimized view by clicking on the minimize button in the upper left of the window.

              Hi Mervyn,

              In the past, I was able to run OR minimized while the program loaded a route.

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              • peaches461999
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2014
                • 118
                • Green Bay

                #37
                The increased loading time you guys gave watchdog seems to be working for me now in my route I am building.

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                • baldwin
                  6000 Post Veteran


                  • Nov 1999
                  • 6358
                  • Chippenham, Wiltshire, UK.
                  • ORTS

                  #38
                  Originally posted by erielackawanna



                  Hi Mervyn,

                  In the past, I was able to run OR minimized while the program loaded a route.
                  The problem is with the new watchdog code. Prior to watchdog, when you minimised and multi tasked, the OS removed the priority from OR and applied it to whatever you decided to work with. OR was then in a state of suspended animation until the OS allocated some cpu cycles. This is still happening, but the watchdog code now assumes that the program is hanging and closes it. As OR is still in beta, and watchdog is in use to look for genuine app hangs during loading and running, you will just have to twiddle your thumbs while it loads. Go make a coffee or something, just don't multitask until it is loaded.

                  By the way, the longest I have waited for a route/activity to load so far is under a minute.
                  Beer is not a matter of life or death, it is much more serious than that.

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                  • eolesen
                    9500 Post Veteran and Administrator



                    • Dec 2002
                    • 9583
                    • NS MP245.4 CNO&TP South District
                    • English, SQL
                    • General

                    #39
                    Responsiveness like this from the development team is why I stick with ORTS....
                    If you like what you see here at Trainsim.com, be it the discussions and knowledge in the forums, or items available in our library, I hope you'll consider a paid membership to help support keeping the site operating.... Thanks!

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                    • mikeebb
                      Senior Member

                      • May 2010
                      • 989
                      • Pacific Time
                      • ORTS

                      #40
                      I frequently multitask while using ORTS (also MSTS) now that I have a quad-core computer. Works fine; MSTS uses no more than 1 core's worth (25%) of processor; ORTS uses 60-70% (in my system) but is well-behaved in terms of multitasking. But I don't minimize ORTS or MSTS - I just go to the desktop and start another program (like Firefox or Pale Moon to look at the route in Google Maps, or to load up railroadradio.net in VLC Player for some route-appropriate chatter). Alt-Tab switches between windows fine. That said, I haven't tried to actually open another program while the route is loading - will try that. I suspect, though, that the crash problem has something to do with minimizing, not just multitasking.

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                      • OTTODAD
                        1
                        • Feb 2001
                        • 32344
                        • England
                        • General

                        #41
                        Originally posted by mikeebb
                        I frequently multitask while using ORTS (also MSTS) now that I have a quad-core computer. Works fine; MSTS uses no more than 1 core's worth (25%) of processor; ORTS uses 60-70% (in my system) but is well-behaved in terms of multitasking. But I don't minimize ORTS or MSTS - I just go to the desktop and start another program (like Firefox or Pale Moon to look at the route in Google Maps, or to load up railroadradio.net in VLC Player for some route-appropriate chatter). Alt-Tab switches between windows fine. That said, I haven't tried to actually open another program while the route is loading - will try that. I suspect, though, that the crash problem has something to do with minimizing, not just multitasking.
                        Messing around with this some more I can not interrupt a slow loading activity to drop ORTS to the Task Bar, but when it has finished loading, showing its full screen, I can move its window with Alt-Enter like shown below.

                        It can not be moved again but I can access all else that is shown on the desktop and forinstance connect to the Internet, usually closed down when I am running train simulators not requiring it.

                        Another Alt-Enter restores the reduced size ORTS window to full screen again.

                        But trying that with ORTS actually running the ICE-3 it crashed !






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                        • peaches461999
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 118
                          • Green Bay

                          #42
                          Is it the old memory problem. Maybe while OR is loading, and you running other tasks, OR is crashing because of a lack of resources because of all the programs that are running?

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