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  • baldwin
    6000 Post Veteran


    • Nov 1999
    • 6358
    • Chippenham, Wiltshire, UK.
    • ORTS

    #16
    The ICE 3 sets are 8 car units with 16 powered axles, so not every car is powered, but this power is distributed along the trainset. The consist that Otto shows is correct.

    Information at http://www.railfaneurope.net/ice/ice3.html
    Last edited by baldwin; 11-03-2014, 15:12.
    Beer is not a matter of life or death, it is much more serious than that.

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    • crstagg
      4500 Post Veteran


      • Nov 1999
      • 4885
      • Huntsville, AL
      • Texan
      • MSOR

      #17
      4 ENG and 4 WAGs VS an Acela consist of 1 ENG and 8 Wags. Yea, an Apples and Tangerines comparison.
      Charles

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      • OTTODAD
        1
        • Feb 2001
        • 32344
        • England
        • General

        #18
        Originally posted by crstagg
        4 ENG and 4 WAGs VS an Acela consist of 1 ENG and 8 Wags.
        That's what the MSTSBin ICE-3 8-cars consist uses, but this is what the real one has:

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        • NorthernWarrior
          6500 Post Veteran


          • Apr 2007
          • 6922
          • Swindon, England

          #19
          As an aside, having only just started running Open Rails I found the SD50 supplied in the MLT Sandplace route pack and the CPR SD45s in KHP1 very slow to accelerate. Needed something like Notch 4 or 5 just to get moving (and yes I did release the indie brake!). Also the SD45 has the air compressor sound running almost continuously.
          Vern.

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          • OTTODAD
            1
            • Feb 2001
            • 32344
            • England
            • General

            #20
            Originally posted by NorthernWarrior
            As an aside, having only just started running Open Rails I found the SD50 supplied in the MLT Sandplace route pack and the CPR SD45s in KHP1 very slow to accelerate. Needed something like Notch 4 or 5 just to get moving (and yes I did release the indie brake!). Also the SD45 has the air compressor sound running almost continuously.
            Hi Vern !

            I think the problem is that the ORTS coders have to try to make all these locos which have different *.ENG files settings start and run realistically, or somebody can teach us how to modify them ourselves, like improving the starting and running speeds of the Acela !

            Most popular MSTS default diesels used by ORTS have been improved to run more like their real versions, like the DASH-9, SD40-2 and GP-38, but moving their Train Brakes levers to 0% - Zero is still too slow, not releasing all train brakes fast enough at the same time, Charles Stagg's mention of the SHIFT-/ keys combo helps !

            That should improve once ORTS has its own route creating tools, using rolling stock specifically created for the Graphics Engine it uses !

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            • NorthernWarrior
              6500 Post Veteran


              • Apr 2007
              • 6922
              • Swindon, England

              #21
              You also need to be able to close the throttle much quicker, too. I'm enjoying running those routes and motive power which performs well in OR but agree about the route editor. Although I shall leave it dormant on the laptop just in case, I find I cannot bring myself to start work in the MSTS RE, after using Trainz Surveyor and even our loved/hated RW editor. They are just so much further ahead and going forward if we want to see new OR routes being produced they are going to need a custom editor which leaves behind the worst of the MSTS one and incorporates the best features from RW and Trainz.
              Vern.

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