AI .eng files?

[apco25]

Do we still need AI .eng files in OR? I see really no difference between OR running and AI or driveable .eng file on AI trains.

[crstagg]

When unit has crew we still need a trail version w/o crew.

[peaches461999]

I have deleted all the ai in my trainset folder. And if its a rare model with a crew i just make sure to use it as a lead on whatever consist it is in

[OTTODAD]

When unit has crew we still need a trail version w/o crew.

Do AI trains run without an engineer / crew in a train simulator's lead loco and in reality ?

Consists using helpers may or may not have crews in them ?

[peaches461999]

Since OR is an upgrade for MSTS, and MSTS is a Simulator rather than a game, most of todays modern locos have very dark tinted windows, and unless windows are open, or train is stopped and the crew is standing outside, you can't really see the crew in the cab. So really, the models showing crews, imo, are outdated models.

[crstagg]

Since OR is an upgrade for MSTS, and MSTS is a Simulator rather than a game, most of todays modern locos have very dark tinted windows, and unless windows are open, or train is stopped and the crew is standing outside, you can't really see the crew in the cab. So really, the models showing crews, imo, are outdated models.

FINE for modern locos. BUT I run mostly first and sometimes second generation diesels.

AND I expect the someone from the OR crew will tell you that OR is NOT an "upgrade" of MSTS.

[baldwin]

Open Rails is not an "upgrade" for MSTS, it is a replacement for the old MSTS that will let you use all of your old content except the editors on modern systems. It includes better handling of signalling and AI traffic. This is phase 1.

Beyond phase 1 Open Rails will move in a different direction to begin using its own editors and content as they are developed.

[peaches461999]

Sorry, didn't mean to offend with such an innocent word as upgrade. But seeing as how MSTS is still needed for a great deal of OR, I'll stick with my word. Not to bash OR, I am very impressed with how far it has come, and no longer run activities in MSTS. But to make my activities and work on routes, MSTS is still providing the life blood to OR. But I do have to pass compliments on in regards to how OR is handling activities I'm throwing at it. And so far I've become very impressed with how I'm able to run across a full route such as Cajon 4 with well over 30 AI meets and no standoffs. Just for giggles I've tried to run some of my acts in MSTS, and it gets choked down badly in scenes where there are at least 6 100+ car consists....and at those times it just flat out crashes to windows. But in OR my acts I've thrown at it hardly even cause a stutter. At least for the time being. After it hits version 1.0, and switches over to use all it's own content exclusively, that version beyond 1.0 as stated, I'll be glad to call the replacement.

[baldwin]

No offence taken, but to refer to OR as an upgrade infers that OR is using some MSTS code, when in fact it is not.

[HI!]

..but to refer to OR as an upgrade infers that OR is using some MSTS code, when in fact it is not.

Would it be to much to ask but to think of an upgrade as an upgrade over what we had previous, rather than thinking of it in terms of code only? In the simplest of terms, if it works better then its an upgrade, not in a code sense we all know this, since OR is a standalone game yada, yada, yada. If my old car didnt have air conditioning and my new one does, no one would be offended, or correct me if I said that having air conditioning is an upgrade over what I did have..

[Vince]

OR is a completely new/different game engine.

The car thing is sorta' right.
Say you were driving a Yugo, Now you 'upgraded' to a Cadillac.

The Caddy has all sorts of new/different whistles and bells and OnStar and SatNav maps ect. for your comfort & pleasure.

Both are cars. The Caddy has much more to offer. Just like ORTS has much more to offer than MSTS.

[crstagg]

OR is a completely new/different game engine.

The car thing is sorta' right.
Say you were driving a Yugo, Now you 'upgraded' to a Cadillac.

The Caddy has all sorts of new/different whistles and bells and OnStar and SatNav maps ect. for your comfort & pleasure.

Both are cars. The Caddy has much more to offer. Just like ORTS has much more to offer than MSTS.

HI!,

If you did what Vince describes above, would you tell your friends that you upgraded your car or would you say you got a new car?

[peaches461999]

I guess all the negativity I've read to how thin skinned and easily offended certain senior members are on this website, is proving itself to be true. You guys sure do like beating a dead horse. How pathetic it is to see people so utterly defensive if people don't see it EXACTLY their way. This forum really is full of negativity and easily offended know it all jerks. Keep on beating the dead horse guys. Real classy.

[Vince]

So, when someone corrects you it's 'negativity'? Wow . . .you must have had some wonderful moments in school.

And Charles' post above is not 'negativity'; It's usually called an 'example'.

enjoy!

[OTTODAD]

OR is a completely new/different game engine.

But it still has to use program and graphics code which was created for MSTS by whatever compiler and graphics editor which were in use at the time, to be run by the then Windows 98/XP and its version of DX, using single CPU computers with limited RAM and less capable graphics cards !

ORTS is now trying to improve what that old code can do using more recent and advanced techniques to interpret and improve it, having some success !

But until a completely new set of program components can be created and coded for specific use by ORTS and whatever new techniques and graphical advances it uses, ORTS will be limited by what the old MSTS code will let them do to improve it for use by the new "game engine".

Coming back to the cars example, ORTS is still the old MSTS car, having been re-sprayed and given a new engine and gearbox !

I think I have got that right ?