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  • OTTODAD
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    • Feb 2001
    • 32344
    • England
    • General

    #1

    Slow Acela Train Brakes

    Installed the X.2422 update and the Acela consist's train brakes are still too slow, taking 1 minute to release them from 20% to Zero% !

    http://www.otto-wipfel.co.uk/video/orts-slow-acela-train-brakes.wmv

    and again part of the scenery in the background is disappearing.

    Any chance of that and other consists too slow train brakes can be fixed in future ?
  • releismetrain
    Senior Member
    • May 2010
    • 176

    #2
    Hi Otto,
    I have had scenery in the background disappearing also lately.
    It seems to me that the distant objects I can see to horizon is not as far as it was before.

    Regards Geoff.

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    • baldwin
      6000 Post Veteran


      • Nov 1999
      • 6358
      • Chippenham, Wiltshire, UK.
      • ORTS

      #3
      Otto, what brake pipe charging rate do you have set in Options/General. I have mine at 330, default is 21.
      Beer is not a matter of life or death, it is much more serious than that.

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      • OTTODAD
        1
        • Feb 2001
        • 32344
        • England
        • General

        #4
        Originally posted by baldwin
        Otto, what brake pipe charging rate do you have set in Options/General. I have mine at 330, default is 21.
        Tested your's and the maximum 1000 and it has made no difference.

        Have you tried it running the default USA1 Summer Express activity ?

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        • OTTODAD
          1
          • Feb 2001
          • 32344
          • England
          • General

          #5
          This is getting weirder !

          Here is an Acela Express running the same NEC-4 activity in MSTSBin and ORTS.

          Can anybody explain what is going on, the ORTS Acela train brakes again taking 1 minute to fully release from 20% to Zero% !

          http://www.otto-wipfel.co.uk/video/MSTSBIN-ORTS-ACELA-TRAIN-BRAKES.wmv

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          • baldwin
            6000 Post Veteran


            • Nov 1999
            • 6358
            • Chippenham, Wiltshire, UK.
            • ORTS

            #6
            I don't know what the cause of your Acela problem is. I started up the old default NEC and started the Riding the Yellows activity. I left New Carrolton 5 seconds late with the BC figure still heading to zero. Full brake release was about 15 seconds total. One thing I did do a long time ago was make sure that the release rate was the same for every car in the train.
            Beer is not a matter of life or death, it is much more serious than that.

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            • OTTODAD
              1
              • Feb 2001
              • 32344
              • England
              • General

              #7
              Hi Baldwin !

              I had the Graduated Release box ticked, which was suggested a long time ago and ticking it with all settings at default it started swiftly releasing them from 34% to Zero% and throttling up the Acela it proceeded as one would expect from a real one !

              I think I shall have to remember in future to show all of my related option and other related settings when reporting a problem !

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              • Vince
                6500 Post Veteran

                • Nov 1999
                • 6961
                • Mohave

                #8
                Hi OttO,
                Looking carefully at the OR Acela brake gauges I notice the Main Res charging (refilling?) rate is very slow. In MSTS some of the brake parameters were (are) ignored. OR, being 'compatible' looks at all the parms in the engine file and it has been causing a few folks grief.

                When I saw this happening with my Acela I just went in and tweaked the brake parameters.
                I just love experimenting like this. Gives me something to do and keeps me off the streets.

                As OR is a WIP (just like MSTS was a major WIP back in 2001-03 needing, documentation, couplers, tracknodes, Bin ect.) it's gonna take some digging to sort all this out.
                I for one am enjoying getting this really exciting new train simulation engine tweaked, something we didn't have an opportunity to do with MSTS. I'd be bored if it wasn't for things like this!

                Take a peek at the OR forum over at ELVAS Tower http://www.elvastower.com/forums/ind...90-open-rails/
                Lots of good info there.
                Some folks complaining about "the trains won't crash (no they won't) or why do I have to connect brake hoses (prototype operation). . ." but there are some legitimate bugs and they are being slowly worked out with the input and assistance from the community.
                And I'm lovin' it! It's like early MSTS but this time we have a line to the developers and that friend Otto is a very good thing!

                Enjoy!
                ............Vince ..............
                ...... Author NECv4 .......
                .... LIRR BUILD PHOTOS ....
                ...... Eschew Obsfucation ......

                On the The Statue of Liberty in New York Harbor there is a Tablet. On it is written:
                "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
                the wretched refuse of your teeming shore, send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
                I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

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                • OTTODAD
                  1
                  • Feb 2001
                  • 32344
                  • England
                  • General

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Vince
                  Hi Otto, looking carefully at the OR Acela brake gauges I notice the Main Res charging (refilling?) rate is very slow. In MSTS some of the brake parameters were (are) ignored. OR, being 'compatible' looks at all the parms in the engine file and it has been causing a few folks grief.

                  When I saw this happening with my Acela I just went in and tweaked the brake parameters.

                  I just love experimenting like this. Gives me something to do and keeps me off the streets.

                  As OR is a WIP (just like MSTS was a major WIP back in 2001-03 needing, documentation, couplers, tracknodes, Bin ect.) it's gonna take some digging to sort all this out.

                  I for one am enjoying getting this really exciting new train simulation engine tweaked, something we didn't have an opportunity to do with MSTS. I'd be bored if it wasn't for things like this! And I'm lovin' it! It's like early MSTS but this time we have a line to the developers and that friend Otto is a very good thing!

                  Enjoy!
                  Agreed, Vince !

                  Our aging brains must have something challenging and creative to do to prevent Dementia and keep our bodies alive !

                  Take care !

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