Open Rails Crashing

[dorismarie]

Sorry, but I do not know how to officially report a bug in revision #2421 and 2422. When I run activity "Service 7017" on NEC4.0, I come to a place where Open Rails always crashes. My computer is an Alienware Desktop with I-7 processor. The activity runs perfectly in version 2378. I am attaching my log file. Hope someone will forward it to the Open Rails team. Thanks.

[baldwin]

Small problem. You attached a log for the WP3 (Green River) route. You need to re-run the NEC4 activity and attach the log from that session.

[OTTODAD]

When I run activity "Service 7017" on NEC4.0, I come to a place where Open Rails always crashes.

I have no such actvity in the downloaded from this File Library NEC-4 !

Where did you download it from and what is its download's Zip file name ?

[dorismarie]

The activity is 7017.zip and is very densely populated. The crash occurs at the beginning of the activity emerging from the tunnel at Baltimore station. There is a reversing point just past the first red signal. The crash occurs when I stop at the station just beyond the point. Still looking for the text file. Thanks for any help.

[OTTODAD]

The activity is 7017.zip and is very densely populated. The crash occurs at the beginning of the activity emerging from the tunnel at Baltimore station. There is a reversing point just past the first red signal. The crash occurs when I stop at the station just beyond the point. Still looking for the text file. Thanks for any help.

Tested it in ORTS and MSTSBin and approaching both these REDs my keyboard stopped responding.

The TAB key gives no permission to pass them and there seems to be no TAB function in ORTS, neither is there a RESET key for use after an Emergency brakes application ?

Took some trying of different keys to get that Acela to move again !

Pity, because Vince has done a great job running AIs and the activity is alive with them !




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[OTTODAD]

Had one more go at making this activity work in MSTSBin and after giving it a shorter Freestyle path, which does not work in ORTS, got again stuck at the first RED and had to fiddle using some keys to be able to pass it, TAB not working.

Approaching the next RED I was nowhere near it when I got stopped for passing it !

An example of an activity that allows AIs to share the player path, getting complicated making signals work properly to control them.

That's why I prefer Jim Ward's method of creating activities that can run multiple AIs, but not on tracks used by the player !

http://www.otto-wipfel.co.uk/video/mstsbin-acela-activity.wmv

[baldwin]

................ Still looking for the text file. Thanks for any help.

The file you want is the open rails log which is regenerated each time you run OR. To get a log for the 7017 activity, you have to run it again until you get the crash. Then to log will refer to the 7017 and the NEC.

[OTTODAD]

The log will refer to the 7017 and the NEC.

Its Icon will be displayed on your desktop, cluttered no doubt with other Icons !

[baldwin]

Tracked down the activity and gave it a shot. Found that I had to give the HHP a reverse cab view in order to drive the thing once I got coupled to the train. Seems to be something not quite right so am going to run again.

[OTTODAD]

Had a final go to make this activity work and trying to get to that consist on track1 got an emergency brake for which there is no reset in ORTS like Z in MSTSBin:

http://www.otto-wipfel.co.uk/video/orts-nec-4-activity.wmv

Also had an AI join the player path ahead of it but the player drove just through it causing no derailment.

ORTS needs its own Signaling, Routes and Activities Editors to make what it is being coded for work 100% !




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[baldwin]

Actualy, there is a way to reset your brake after a TCS emergency application, it is CTRL M to move into manual mode. But in that mode you have to tab through every signal set against you, including ground signals. The problem with this activity in OR is the sheer complexity of the path needed to get to your pickup point plus the fact that when you do get coupled, there is the added bug that you have a cab with reversed controls, reverse to go forward that further confuses the situation. From that point on ORTS deals with the player consist as if it is off path.

[dorismarie]

I have managed to make the activity work by going to manual mode when stopped at the red signal, then going back to auto mode at the station platform, just past where the reversing point is located. After that everything works fine in version 2422. Thanks for your help. You are right, this is a super activity. I would send the author a contribution if I could find a current address for him. The one in the readme file is old and out of date.

[OTTODAD]

I have managed to make the activity work by going to manual mode when stopped at the red signal, then going back to auto mode at the station platform, just past where the reversing point is located. After that everything works fine in version 2422. Thanks for your help. You are right, this is a super activity. I would send the author a contribution if I could find a current address for him. The one in the readme file is old and out of date.

Tried that and no go.

This "first red signal" can be passed after asking for permission with TAB.

Not doing that and going to MANUAL there, throwing the next switch got me an Emergency stop I could not reset !

[Vince]

Hi Otto,

If you have 'Suppress control confirmations' ticked, you may be missing seeing information on the cause of the emergency application.

I also notice your copy of the route seems to be afflicted with the 'stuck points' malady. I know it's only a visual nit but I was startled by your train passing 2 similar points before the emergency stop.

In the second part of the video, tankers rolling by on the right, please note the green arrow in the F4 track monitor. It appears your path here is set to run in reverse.
I have had a few problems with the OR track monitor as it apparently is not a MSTS clone . . . especially when dealing with reverse points.

I'd suggest you do as I am doing, writing a few activities with reversing of the path, through turnouts and so on. This has help me understand how OR displays the information we are so used to using.
I'm sure the OR developers have improved the way we receive info from the Sim and it's just going to be a read/experiment to understand.

I'm for one kind of happy to be digging into development glitches again but this time with a HUGE difference . . . the bugs get worked on, new things get tried and it's soooo easy with the automatic update and there is direct contact with the OR team.

Enjoy!

[OTTODAD]

Hi Vince !

Downloaded that copy of your NEC-4 from the File Library yesterday and after adding this 7017 activity ran it in an installed from CDs default 6 routes version of MSTS + Bin on my WIN-XP SP3 computer and could not finish it in ORTS nor in MSTSBin.

Did not run the Route Riter to fix its STUCK switches !

Today I copied my DB-Tracks version of MSTSBin from my WIN-7 computer to this WIN-XP SP3 computer which has no problems using Bandicam and the Windows Movie Maker. Here is the more efficient video of this 7017 activity running successfully:

http://www.otto-wipfel.co.uk/video/nec-4-7017-act-working.wmv

After coupling on to this 4-wagons consist on Track-1 I forgot to Zero the HPP's throttle and setting the brakes before changing cabs.

Then I tried it in ORTS and the HHP had no rear cab.

Never mind, can be driven from the outside, keeping an eye on the F5-Hud.

Got as far as trying to start that consist to drive to Philadelphia from track-1 and could not move it, the HHP announcing wheelslip at 3% Throttle !

http://www.otto-wipfel.co.uk/video/nec-4-orts-7017-act-not-working.wmv




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