Can't operate electric locomotives with Open Rails

[AlstomSiemensBombardier]

Hi I've downloaded some French high speed lines for my TGV add-ons to operate (LGV Med 3.0 and Ln1-Paris to Lyon), but when it runs, the overhead wire is missing and the TGVs is stuck on the platform. Another high speed route, LGE, has the wire but the train still can't move. When I run it on MSTS, a whole bunch of error messages crop up about missing shapes, but with the wire being there and the train function as normal. How should I fix this?

P.S-I see there is a similiar thread, but I tried re-apply and then release the brakes, but the train is still stuck.

[cjakeman]

MSTS starts with the pantograph raised and OR does not.

Does that help,

Chris
OR Dev

[AlstomSiemensBombardier]

Yeah I put both pantographs up and still the train is stuck on the platform.

[motormaster532]

Hi I've downloaded some French high speed lines for my TGV add-ons to operate (LGV Med 3.0 and Ln1-Paris to Lyon), but when it runs, the overhead wire is missing and the TGVs is stuck on the platform. Another high speed route, LGE, has the wire but the train still can't move. When I run it on MSTS, a whole bunch of error messages crop up about missing shapes, but with the wire being there and the train function as normal. How should I fix this?

P.S-I see there is a similiar thread, but I tried re-apply and then release the brakes, but the train is still stuck.

Open Open Rails.Click on "Options".Click on "Video". Check off "Overhead Wires".See if that solves the lack of wires problem.Also,as I responded in another post,try resetting the motors by depressing the Letter "Z" on your keyboard.It performs two functions,the Alerter and the Reset.Brian

[AlstomSiemensBombardier]

Open Open Rails.Click on "Options".Click on "Video". Check off "Overhead Wires".See if that solves the lack of wires problem.Also,as I responded in another post,try resetting the motors by depressing the Letter "Z" on your keyboard.It performs two functions,the Alerter and the Reset.Brian

Thanks, but there is no response when I press "Z".

[rdamurphy]

Which version of OR are you using?

Try downloading this one:

http://www.openrails.org/experimental.html

Robert

[slipperman]

Hi,
Having just tried running a TGV on the LGE route, I've had no problem moving the train, using Open Rails X1705.
I used Explore mode, Locomotive TGV Duplex with consist TGV2N Deluxe UM (Double) on the path Bale-SNCF to Strasbourg.

May I, respectfully, suggest that you sort out the "whole bunch of error messages" you get with MSTS before trying to run with OpenRails.

Cheers,
Ged

[AlstomSiemensBombardier]

Ok, how do I sort out the error with missing shapes in the LN1 and LGE route? I keep getting the "No extended shape HHPont" error message.

[slipperman]

Hi,
You're going to have to give a lot more information for anybody to be able to help you!

In my whole MSTS installation where I've got LGE installed, there are no files with HHpoint in their name - in fact, it's not in any of my, mainly UK & European, route installations.

If the TGV you're using is not the same as the one I used in my test, please let us know exactly which one. If it's payware, someone may have it and be able to offer a solution.

Cheers,
Ged

[AlstomSiemensBombardier]

Sorry, I should have been more clear. Since I could'nt reinstall the Just Train TGV pack, I downloaded the MSTS TGV pack from the file library of Train sim (the TGV sud-est). Those TGVs (or the Acela) can't move on the LGV and LGE line (for Open Rails). I selected "explore route" and then the train. Brakes released, pantograph up, gear in forward setting and already added some throttle, but nothing. When I tried using the TGV Duplex, it worked however (I did notice when I released the brakes of the duplex, it says "release 100%" while the TGV sud-est just says "release"). Is this because the Open Rails limit the high line to TGV Duplex only?

[slipperman]

Hi,
I've downloaded tgvpse13.zip and installed it - I assume this is the one you're using!

It works OK (in OpenRails), but you must make sure the brakes are fully released (Brake display says "Release EQ 90psi") and, more importantly, it doesn't start to move until the throttle is at 90 - 95%. I've found similar problems with some UK electric loocos in that they won't move until the throttle is over 60%, also that acceleration is very poor, unlike real and MSTS electric locos!! Once the TGV is moving it seems to be OK.

Cheers,
Ged

[AlstomSiemensBombardier]

Hi,
I've downloaded tgvpse13.zip and installed it - I assume this is the one you're using!

It works OK (in OpenRails), but you must make sure the brakes are fully released (Brake display says "Release EQ 90psi") and, more importantly, it doesn't start to move until the throttle is at 90 - 95%. I've found similar problems with some UK electric loocos in that they won't move until the throttle is over 60%, also that acceleration is very poor, unlike real and MSTS electric locos!! Once the TGV is moving it seems to be OK.

Cheers,
Ged

Thanks so much! I wonder why Open Rails has this problem? I hope this bug gets fixed for the future versions.

[baldwin]

It seems to be a problem within the OR physics set. Steam engines suffer from the same thing. Diesels on the other hand take off like a scalded cat even with a heavy train on the drawbar.

[AlstomSiemensBombardier]

Well I borrowed my friend's Just Train's TGV Sim pack (boxed version) and it installed fine on the MSTS. I'm tired of the error messages over missing shape or file that keeps cropping up on the add-on routes, so I want to see if it can work on OR for the LGE and LN1 add-on routes. The train is there but the signal is always "red", and the train can't move, or if it did move a bit, the emergency brakes would automatically apply to stop the train. This problem doid not occur with the prior downloaded TGV Sud-Est or TGV Duplex add-ons. Is there any way to change the signal from red to green so that the train can move?

[seagoon]

...Diesels on the other hand take off like a scalded cat even with a heavy train on the drawbar.

They do?
Please, do tell me which ones because all those that I use (SLI, MLT, DW 3DT etc) take off like frozen kittens - i.e. at a speed approaching reality.

BK