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  • crstagg
    4500 Post Veteran


    • Nov 1999
    • 4885
    • Huntsville, AL
    • Texan
    • MSOR

    #31
    Originally posted by OTTODAD
    ......................

    The Conbuilder can not see them so that I can create a Consist for running them in ORTS !

    ...........
    Otto,

    The Wagon lines do not agree with the filenames. ConBuilder reports multiple startup errors like this:

    The wagon file 2P_ADIF_1_CHATARRA.wag contains an error on the line Wagon ( Ealos_VAT_OR
    and so it couldn't be added to the wagons list.
    Most probably the Wagon line is not the SAME as its FILENAME.
    The Wagon line should be Wagon ( 2P_ADIF_1_CHATARRA
    Folder A:\CB-WAG-Test\TRAINS\TRAINSET\Ealos_VAT_OR
    Or there is a syntax error on the wagonshape line correct this error and re-run ConBuilder!!

    Correcting this error and testing the Wagon I found that the Sounds are aliased to ..\\..\\SONIDOS_COMUNES\\FREIGHT\\FREIGHT.sms.
    HOWEVER, the installer did not install those sounds. Looking at the documentation, but not being able to read Spanish, it appears that there are instructions on how to obtain the sound files.

    Pasku,

    The MSTS specifications for Wagon Files specifies that the Line "WAGON ( ______" MUST be EXACTLY the same as the filename of the .WAG file. MSTS will error if the Wagon line is not exactly the same as the filename. Actually MSTS the sim and the Editors & Tools will crash without an error message. Utilities such as ConBuilder were written according to the MSTS Specifications and will not load Engines or Wagons that will cause MSTS to crash. ORTS on the other hand does not use the Wagon line.

    Yes, your wagons can be used in ORTS without the Wagon line matching the filename, BUT the MSTS Activity Editor cannot be used to create Activities or Consists when your Wagons are in the Trainset.
    Charles

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    • crstagg
      4500 Post Veteran


      • Nov 1999
      • 4885
      • Huntsville, AL
      • Texan
      • MSOR

      #32
      Originally posted by OTTODAD
      The Conbuilder not being able to see the waggons, I created a Consist manually, modifing an existing one !

      Running ORTS this single wagon does not show !

      Which *.WAG file does this blue 3P-Railsider wagon use ?




      Otto,

      You have a TYPO in your WagonData line.

      It should be
      WagonData ( 3P_RAIL_SIDER_SUCIO_CHATARRA Ealos_VAT_OR )
      not
      WagonData ( 3P_RAIL_SIDER_CHATARRA Ealos_VAT_OR )
      You left out "SUCIO_"
      Charles

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      • Pasku
        New Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 20
        • Spain

        #33
        Originally posted by crstagg

        The MSTS specifications for Wagon Files specifies that the Line "WAGON ( ______" MUST be EXACTLY the same as the filename of the .WAG file. MSTS will error if the Wagon line is not exactly the same as the filename. Actually MSTS the sim and the Editors & Tools will crash without an error message. Utilities such as ConBuilder were written according to the MSTS Specifications and will not load Engines or Wagons that will cause MSTS to crash. ORTS on the other hand does not use the Wagon line.
        Regarding the "Wagon (name_the_wagon" line stopped implement it in the way that you mention for the reason that people wanted to use the exclusive addons Open Rails in MSTS, reaching the limit of causing disputes in the forum insisting on them when they were only for that platform. So then eliminating that factor, people who used the Editors & Tools to create compositions with exclusive material, was that he could not, giving error as a kind warning "you can not use this addon here".

        Originally posted by crstagg

        Yes, your wagons can be used in ORTS without the Wagon line matching the filename, BUT the MSTS Activity Editor cannot be used to create Activities or Consists when your Wagons are in the Trainset.
        Currently, the compositions are created with the Convoi program without any problem (our beta testers use and much of the users we know) and when they want to do activities with exclusive material from the Editors & Tools create activity with standard material and Convoi then replace it with the correct one. Also the large number of people make games online with the material, then create compositions with Convoi and then play the games.

        I have no problem adapting to the specifications mentions wagons to facilitate the work and you can use the Editors & Tools or ConBuilder , during the day publish the corrected so that they can enjoy that way installer.

        Regards,
        Pasku

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        • OTTODAD
          1
          • Feb 2001
          • 32344
          • England
          • General

          #34
          Thanks both of you, but will give it a miss until ORTS has its own fully working editors !

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          • crstagg
            4500 Post Veteran


            • Nov 1999
            • 4885
            • Huntsville, AL
            • Texan
            • MSOR

            #35
            Notice that Convoi also reports the same error on the Wagon Line.

            pas.JPG
            Charles

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            • Pasku
              New Member
              • Aug 2012
              • 20
              • Spain

              #36
              Regarding capture you samples, it is normal Convoi say failures, it makes a review of all generally affecting in this case MSTS, but still does not affect operation in Open Rails or program when the compositions are created.

              Concerning the error sound, remember to read the documentation included with the addon, where it indicates that dependence needs to work sounds.

              After contingencies of everyday life (not fully dedicate myself to this hobby) tomorrow will be published the new installer with the corrected errors and a temporary link with WAG modified files so you do not have to re-download the installer again.

              Regards,
              Pasku

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              • OTTODAD
                1
                • Feb 2001
                • 32344
                • England
                • General

                #37
                Using these 2 *.WAGs supplied both show inserted into a different existing MSTS consist, but are not displaying the graphical quality as shown by Pakus examples !

                And what is the purpose of this ridiculous CHAPKA in this download prove ?




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                • Pasku
                  New Member
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 20
                  • Spain

                  #38
                  It is confirmed that the packaging has been a mistake and has not been done correctaente. I'm accountable to fix all the problems in the shortest time possible because my teammates are on vacation.

                  Originally posted by OTTODAD
                  And what is the purpose of this ridiculous CHAPKA in this download prove ?
                  Nor is it to be so, as it seems he wants to leave the team as liars by misleading advertising and that not going to acquiesce.

                  Remember that after these cars there is an effort FREE since it is not asking for financial compensation in return, or what is still, payware addon. Not everything can be set up and playing as a payment addon.

                  In these cases there is usually a flexbilidad when designing free, realism is an approximation and there are always errors presented, either before, during or after the project.

                  For education, in these cases they say "If you do not like, do not download and do not play with."

                  This is my opinion, as you think about the model. These are my words and end up here, does not mean you do not know accept criticism, but I will not get into a debate where a free belittles work with demands of a payware addon.

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                  • gkhager
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 137
                    • Laguna Hills, CA, USA

                    #39
                    Hi Pasku,

                    Thank you to yourself and your team for making these cars available, they are very well done! Please don't let the complainers above deter you from providing these types of add-ons that are FREEWARE as you say. There are many of us who appreciate your efforts and are grateful that you are releasing new products for the community.

                    Geoff

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                    • OTTODAD
                      1
                      • Feb 2001
                      • 32344
                      • England
                      • General

                      #40
                      Originally posted by gkhager
                      Please don't let the complainers above deter you from providing these types of add-ons that are FREEWARE as you say.
                      Criticism is meant to be constructive, but falls on deaf ears many times, more so with Freeware creators and less with Payware ones who have to make a living selling their work !

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