Some X.1593 Glitches
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The Train brakes part of the Series-7000 combined throttle does not work and is in fact it's Dynamic Brake.
Train brakes have to be applied by pressing the ; key, which has to be pressed and held down twice to fully release them in all locos !
Everybody has this Default EMU and can try driving it in ORTS !

Checking my Trainset folders find that 56 *.ENG files use it, mainly German.
The DB-Talent DMU which uses a combined Throttle and Train Brakes lever does not work at all in ORTS !

This is the latest version of the diesels exhaust fumes, of little interest to me, most of the time driving diesel locos not seeing their exhaust fumes:
http://www.otto-wipfel.co.uk/video/orts-diesel-exhaust.wmv
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More glitches in the distance.
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Reported where ?

And what about all these combined Throttle and Train Brakes levers in use, their Train Brakes function in fact applying Dynamic Brakes !
TRAINSET\DB_Talent_643.2\DB_Talent_643.2_1.eng
TRAINSET\DB_Talent_643.2\DB_Talent_643.2_2.eng
TRAINSET\Db612\DB612.eng':
TRAINSET\g15_3199\g15_3199.eng':
TRAINSET\g15_6ngt-lzd_2000\g15_6ngt-lzd_2000.e
TRAINSET\g15_6ngt-lzd_xmas\g15_6ngt-lzd_2000_x
TRAINSET\g15_gt10nc-du_1031\g15_gt10nc-du_1031
TRAINSET\g15_gt10nc-du_1033\g15_gt10nc-du_1033
TRAINSET\g15_gt10nc-du_1044\g15_gt10nc-du_1044
TRAINSET\g15_gt10nc-du_1045\g15_gt10nc-du_1045
TRAINSET\g15_gt8_1091\g15_gt8_1091-1.eng':
TRAINSET\g15_gt8_1092\g15_gt8_1092-1.eng':
TRAINSET\g15_gt8s_3101\g15_gt8s_3101-1.eng':
TRAINSET\g15_gt8su_3202\g15_gt8su_3202-1.eng':
TRAINSET\g15_gt8su_3208\g15_gt8su_3208-1.eng':
TRAINSET\g15_gt8su_3209\g15_gt8su_3209-1.eng':
TRAINSET\g15_gt8su_3216\g15_gt8su_3216-1.eng':
TRAINSET\g15_pro-b80c_4713\g15_pro-b80c_4713.e
TRAINSET\g15_pro-b80d_4102\g15_pro-b80d_4102.e
TRAINSET\g15_pro-b80d_4102\g15_pro-b80d_4102_3
TRAINSET\g15_pro-b80d_4221\g15_pro-b80d_4221.e
TRAINSET\g15_pro-b80d_4222\g15_pro-b80d_4222.e
TRAINSET\g15_pro-b80d_4228\g15_pro-b80d_4228.e
TRAINSET\g15_pro-b80d_4235\g15_pro-b80d_4235.e
TRAINSET\g15_pro-b80d_4239\g15_pro-b80d_4239.e
TRAINSET\g15_pro-b80d_4242\g15_pro-b80d_4242.e
TRAINSET\g15_pro-b80d_4244\g15_pro-b80d_4244.e
TRAINSET\g15_pro-b80d_4277\g15_pro-b80d_4277.e
TRAINSET\g15_pro-b80d_4278\g15_pro-b80d_4278.e
TRAINSET\g15_schwebebahn\g15_schwebebahn_a_ki.
TRAINSET\g15_schwebebahn\g15_schwebebahn_b_ki.
TRAINSET\METROLINER\metroliner.eng':
TRAINSET\Surfliner_DynObj\SDTrolley_A.eng':
TRAINSET\Surfliner_DynObj\SDTrolley_B.eng':
TRAINSET\SV_EX21\SV_EX21.eng':
TRAINSET\SV_EX21_trail\SV_EX21_trail.eng':
TRAINSET\TSSbahn-ET423\423_1.eng':
TRAINSET\TSSbahn-ET423\423_4.eng':
TRAINSET\TSSbahn-ET423\ET423.eng':
TRAINSET\TSSbahn-ET423\ET423_5.eng':
Are they being checked ?
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This created by my friend Kurt Kaminer version of his SEAVIEW Express DMU in my favorite Santa-Fe livery has been moded by me for High-Speed running, I use most of the time when beta-testing routes, like I just did for Peter Smith (Ragtimer) after having given him my converted to using DB-Tracks files of the KHP-2, there is a thread about in the MSTS forum.
It does not run in ORTS the same way as it does in MSTS, shown in this video, it's combined throttle Train Brakes not working and is not running at the speed as indicated by it's digital speedo, displayed at a different to MSTS font size:
http://www.otto-wipfel.co.uk/video/orts-hs-sfx.wmv
Alt-Enter to view Full-Screen.
It has also been popular with other MSTS simmers, having got it with my MP3Kcons rolling stock download.

I can not use it in ORTS to do the same and instead have to use another loco and the ORTS Speed-Up Ctrl-ALt-9 and down Ctrl-Alt-3 functions which is less convenient, the speed of my HS-SFX not being controllable with it's throttle.
Having reported this first in March 2011 I am still waiting for a fix !
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Have attached the original *.ENG file in a ZIP as used by Kurt Kaminer in 2003, modeled on the Series-7000 and perhaps one of the ORTS team can find what causes it's Combined Throttle and Train Brakes leaver to use the Dynamic Brakes instead and also why it can not run at the same speed as it does in MSTS.
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Went back to Kurt's 2003 version and revised it for use as FSX-2003.
The combined throttle still has no train brakes and have to release them in 2 stages with the ; key, taking a lot longer than it does in MSTS and there is that "Wheelslip" warning again !
It starts better now but does not accelerate as fast in ORTS as it does in MSTS.
http://www.otto-wipfel.co.uk/video/fsx-2003.wmv
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Here it is, complete with consist file, for the team to have a look at:
http://www.otto-wipfel.co.uk/orts/seaview-express.zip
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Here is the bug report related to the combined throttle and train brake.
Bug 1093831 reported that combined throttle / dynamic brake controls did not work and this has been fixed. There are many modern multiple units both diesel and electric where the throttle is combined with the train brake and this combination does not work in OR but does in MSTS - as described in the eng file reference doc. Sample EMU with combined throttle / train brake - uktrainsim.com file number 8754 Sample DMU with combined throttle / train brake - uktrainsim.com file number 9128 The...sigpicComment
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This bug report deals with combined throttle problems I have reported ages ago and not the total failure of the DB-Talent to run at all in ORTS, my post and reply to refers to:
https://www.trainsim.com/vbts/showthread.php?314202-Some-X-1593-Glitches&p=1805290#post1805290
To help the ORTS team investigate it's problem here is it's leading engine car and consist for:
http://www.otto-wipfel.co.uk/orts/db-talent.zip
Below is a clue perhaps of what it's problems cause could be ?
"Flipping" it did not work, the cab view still being at the wrong end !
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