Locomotives keep going into emergency issue

[TGM]

Hi all

I have installed the latest OR beta x.1576 version.

I have been testing out it's features on MLTs Kicking horse Pass & Rogers Pass in explore mode using either the SLI CP ES44AC or the new SD40-2s from the grain train pack.

I am having an issue where-by after I have started off driving I end up stopped due to an emergency brake application.
I have noticed on the track monitor that I have two red balls to the right of the track?
I guess it's something I'm not doing, but for the life of me I can't work it out.

regards Tom

[seagoon]

Tom,
If you are in "Explore" mode you will need to change switches manually in order to gain clearance (green light).
The red balls to which you refer are the signal aspects - danger.
You will also see yellow and green balls.

Bruce

[TGM]

Thanks for the advice Bruce.

Shouldn't the signals all be green when your in explore mode?
I also notice that the aspects don't change to green after you manually change them from red, the aspects are yellow (in the track monitor screen), but when you go past the signal it is still showing red.

That's a bit of a hassle, having to sit there & change them all of the time. Some times when I'm in explore mode I'll go & make a coffee or do something else.

regards Tom

[seagoon]

Shouldn't the signals all be green when your in explore mode? ...

I'm not sure, Tom as I rarely use "Explore".
But the times that I have I've never had a problem such as you've described.
I'll go and fire up OR now and see what happens.......

EDIT.
Nope....no problem whatsoever (Coal Drag LD, starting at Field).

Tom, it may have something to do with where you are starting. That is, what path are you selecting in Rogers Pass, for example?

Bruce

[TGM]

Bruce

Sorry, Meant to say that this is only happening only on KHP2. The paths are random. Doesn't matter which one.

Tom

[seagoon]

Tom,
No, I couldn't replicate your problem.
I tried several different locos and start locations on KHP2 but never had a problem.
In fact, I didn't have to manually switch anything - every signal ahead was green.

Bruce

[TGM]

That's weird.
Never mind, a solution will present it's at some stage. Thanks for your advice anyway.

regards Tom

[muskokaandtahoe]

I suspect what's going on is that you are off the defined path... either beyond the end or just somewhere else. Signals indications are not part of this... it's all about the software not knowing where you are going and so it cannot reserve permission on the track you are on to let you go forward. That's very different than what MSTS does or doesn't do.

When you are hit w/ the emergency brake, come to a stop, and change modes to manual (IIRC that's cntl m; do a f1 display & review the command listing to see if I got that right). Once in manual mode you should be able to continue moving forward.

I'm not so wild about it being this way but, hey, it is the way it is (and the price is right) so like everyone else I'm trying to adjust.

[seagoon]

Dave,
"Manual mode" (Ctrl+M) is not available in Explorer.

Bruce

[eric]

Perhaps you're hitting a trailing point switch that's still closed?? MSTS opens those up for for you. Open Rails won't...

[TGM]

Guys. It's got me stumped. I have tried it all over the route in explore mode with just an engine ( even switched engines ) & still they are all red. Tab key wont change them either.
Dave, I'm not sure what you mean when you say off the defined path?

regards Tom

I've added a pic for what it's worth.

http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp56/nz_kiwi/OpenRails2013-04-2712-47-03_zpse89a280b.jpg

[seagoon]

Tom,
Does this only happen in Explore mode?
Have you tried an Activity to see if a similar anomaly occurs?

The "defined path" is that chosen by you when you first choose the Explore mode at the top of the selection screen (RH side).
Clicking on Explore should open up another menu which provides a selection of paths.

Being a non-expert, I can't understand how you can do anything other than stay on a defined path in Explore when that mode has a Ctrl+M restriction.

This looks like one for the gurus to answer.

Bruce

[TGM]

Bruce,

Happens in an activity as well. The difference being is that I can switch to manual mode (Ctrl+M) which will allow me to procede. The aspect on the monitor changes from full red to half white, half red, but when I get to the signal it is still showing red.
It must be something specific to my version of KHP2. It is not happening with the other routes in the folder: Roger's Pass, Shuswap & the Bridge Line.

regards Tom

[seagoon]

Tom,
I've just spent 15 minutes moving around the yard and Y at Banff with 2xGP38s (KHPv2 stock) without any problems at all and switching the turnouts/points using the regular 'G' and 'Shift+G' key-strokes.

Where is that location that you've shown? I'll try there as well.

P.S.
Are you running the bog-standard KHPv2 as originally supplied?
Any modifications? (There was a standard update provided in 2003 relating to couplers and physics).

Bruce

[TGM]

Bruce

I have upgraded the route with the KHP2Upgrade 2.01 patch, new sigview ace & sig numbers + the upgrade to Roger's Pass standards.
The pic was taken at Lake Louise heading towards Banff.

regards Tom