Sound issues on Hibu BR112 sound

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  • mstsbe
    Member
    • Oct 2003
    • 81
    • Boom, Antwerp, Belgium.

    #1

    Sound issues on Hibu BR112 sound

    The other day I wanted to try the magnificent sounds of the late Hibu on OpenRails, but was in for a disappointment.

    Loco used is the DB 112 103 included in the Payware route ProTrain 18 (Berlin Hauptbahnhof - Hamburg Hauptbahnhof), which was also the route used in this test. You can switch the loco for the ones from TS-Eastrail or German Railroads, or any if you like, it's just to test the sound.

    The sound used is the one from Hibu and can be downloaded here: http://www.thetrain.de/de/downloadar...bzw-dr-br-212/ (caution: slow server if you haven't registered)

    In the readme itself it is mentioned that Hibu had to use some "hacks" to get the sound right
    Originally posted by sound readme
    Achtung, der Sound ist sehr üppig, ca. 16 Megabyte !
    Ich kann nicht garantieren das er auf allen PC 100%ig funktioniert !
    Gerade sog. "AC97-Soundchips" bereiten oft Schwierigkeiten !

    Der Sound wurde unter bin-Patch 1.7.102222 gebaut und ausgiebig getestet.
    Panthosound funktioniert, (synchron passend zur Panthoanimation) leider nicht mit allen Modellen korrekt.
    Ich habe den Panthosound auf die Animation der Freeware Modelle von TS-Eastrail abgestimmt
    Bei anderen Modellen läuft die Panthoanimation möglicherweise schneller oder langsamer ab und passt deshalb nicht genau zum Sound.

    Damit der Sound korrekt funktioniert, bitte alle Schieberegler in den MSTS-Soundoptionen nach rechts schieben (auf 1.0) !

    Es ist nicht alles 100%ig perfekt geworden, aber wie immer wieder erwähnt, setzt der MSTS Grenzen !
    Es wurde alles mehrfach durchgecheckt und für O.K. befunden.
    Sollte bei dem einen oder anderem etwas nicht funktionieren, so liegt es NICHT an Dieser Sounddatei !
    Wem Dieser Sound nicht gefällt, putzt Ihn einfach von der Platte und die Suppe ist gegessen.
    Translation:
    Attention, the sounds are rather bulky, 16 megabyte.
    I can't guarantee that it works on all PC's, mostly so-called "AC97 chips" can cause problems.

    The sound was built for bin-Patch 1.7.102222 and extensively tested.
    Pantograph sound works, (synchronised with the pantograph animation) but not with all models
    I have matched the sound with the animation of the locos from TS-Eastrail. With other models the pantograph animation can be played slower or faster and won't match with the sound.

    To have the sound working correctly, please move the sound meters in the MSTS sound options to the right (at 1.0) !

    It hasn't become 100% perfect, but as always MSTS has its limits.
    It has been checked multiple times and found to be OK.

    If something doesn't work at someone, then it isn't caused by this soundfile.
    If you don't like the sound, then simply delete it from your HDD and you're done.
    The sound also comes in 3 versions: a version with manual ventilation (you can switch it on by using the "V" key), one with automatic ventilation (ventilation switched on from 5 km/h), and a version for AI and pushing locomotives (in push-pull with driving coach consist).

    In this case, I used the version with automatic ventilation. This is what it sounds like on openRails X1455:


    First, you can hear the pantograph going up and the circuit braker closing. In MSTS it stays closed, in openRails it loops again and again. When we release the brakes, the air compressor kicks in (this is played correctly). Then, we open the throttle, we reach 5 km/h and the ventilation switches on, but we get a continuous high pitch tone. We steadily climb towards the cars maximum speed of 140 km/h (the loco itself is allowed for 160 km/h, but the pulled Halberstädter cars are only allowed for 140 km/h).

    This is what it really should sound like in MSTS:


    It is of course possible that the sound was not programmed correctly in the .sms files (hence the "hacks") to work unmodified in OpenRails. Hibu is no longer among us (died in 2009), so if the sound should be modified we will have to turn to his companion "151olli", a train driver for DB Schenker Rail in Nuremberg who also supplied Hibu with all the original sounds.
    Last edited by mstsbe; 02-27-2013, 09:15.
  • csantucci
    Senior Member
    • Nov 1999
    • 856
    • Torino, Italy.

    #2
    Hello mstsbe,
    in fact I too highly appreciate Hibu's sounds, some of them we were allowed to embed within Italian carriages, and I was very sad when I knew what happened to him.
    Coming to your issue, OR has some differences with respect to MSTS regarding sound, and has also some bugs that I partly evidenced in the bug report site.
    One sure thing refers to AI trains: in OR AI trains don't get their sound by the scalabilitygroup ( 0 ) set of streams, but instead by the sets of streams that are also used for player trains, which has advantages and disadvantages. Moreover there is also some difference (not yet very clear to me) about how Activation and Deactivation work. Triggers 22 and 23 (electric loco on and off) aren't yet implemented. So unfortunately you won't have Hibu's sounds playing in ORTS as they played in MSTS.
    If you like, you can send me the BR112 sound pack and the loco .eng file and I can see how to create an ORTS improved version of the .sms files. I already have done it for some Bernina and Italian locos. You can send me a private message and I can provide you my email.
    Last edited by csantucci; 02-28-2013, 09:42.
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