A couple of observations......

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  • seagoon
    5000 Post Veteran

    • Jun 2001
    • 5161
    • Yamba, N.S.WALES, Australia

    #31
    Originally posted by cjakeman
    Then you did the right thing, but I'm running out of ideas.
    Never mind, Chris.
    It's no biggy and has no effect on the operational aspects of OR.

    Are you saying that you can trigger these problems without ever touching Up and Down keys?
    No, but if I do press either the UP or DOWN arrow keys when in the cab views, then the effect occurs.
    In other words, the view is not locked and use of the keys tilts the earth/sky in relation to the cab.

    Regards,
    Bruce
    IBM XT i386; 512Kb RAM; 5.25" FDD; 1.4Mb FDD; 5Mb HDD; VGA 256-colour graphics card; AdLib soundcard; DR DOS 6.0; Windows 3.0

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    • ChrisD
      Member
      • Feb 2013
      • 48
      • Denmark

      #32
      @rdamurphy

      [quote]
      You can't see a signal a 1/2 mile away. As a matter of fact, sometimes you're just a few feet away from it before you can see it, especially if the head has been bumped and isn't pointing down the track.
      [/unquote]

      This may very well be the case in Your part of the world, but if You want OR to be lifelike, also here in Northern Europe, You must make the distance adjustable.

      Here in Denmark and in neighboring countries, we do not have that many aspects. Sinals are normally placed 2 Km´s apart and in daylight the light is clearly visible at least 400m away and in darkness up to 8 Km´s.

      Want proof? Just pm me and I will provide documentation.

      Thanks for a very good simulator.

      Addendum. Have just checked a CAB video I recorded between Berlin and Hamburg. Weather is clear and the sun is shining. Signal is visible 600 metres away and at 500 meters the color of the light is clearly visible on the recording. I consider my eyesight to be better than that.

      ChrisD
      Last edited by ChrisD; 03-14-2013, 10:52.

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      • rdamurphy
        8000 Post Veteran
        • Nov 1999
        • 8429
        • Where Standard Gauge is 3 feet between the rails.

        #33
        I believe you, Chris, no proof necessary, but I really don't know an awful lot about overseas railroading, so if you have the video up somewhere, I'd love to see it! I'm really trying to broaden my horizons...

        Robert
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        • ChrisD
          Member
          • Feb 2013
          • 48
          • Denmark

          #34
          Robert.

          Please go to Youtube.com and search for "ccc10156". This is my channel and there You can look at Berlin-Hamburg, and Aalbaek to Skagen.

          Please select the HD version, this increases the visibility a bit.

          In the Aalbaek to Skagen video You will notice the special warning signals for level crossings. They show Yellow light when the crossing is unsafe and white flashing light when the gates are down and the crossing secured. At some point in the video two signals for crossings are visible in the distance. As the train triggers the crossings, one at a time, You can see the white flashing lights far, far away.

          Next, at least here in Denmark in the 1950s and 1960s the old Semafore Signals were replaced by so called Daylight Signals. They provide powerful lights and is supposed to be visible at least as far away as the semafores even in daylight.

          I will go through my videos and find the night travel up through Southern Jutland where signals are visible more than 8 Km´s away at night.

          A railroad without signals is no better than a railroad without tracks, so please do not make the signals invisible..

          ChrisD

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          • roeter
            Senior Member
            • Nov 1999
            • 171
            • Netherlands.

            #35
            The simple question of visibility is : if you see the signal, can you discern the aspect?
            It real life, for 'daylight' signals, if you can see the signal, then, in general, you can see which aspect is displayed - sometimes, on clear straight lines, you can see the aspect before you see the signal as such.
            In OR, you can often see the signal at a distance but not what aspect it shows. The reason is that OR just displays the aspect in it's relative size, which at a distant is often only just one pixel or even less, so it can get merged with nabouring pixels and is not properly shown. The light does not 'shine' as it does in reality.
            A good exception is a set of German signals (I no longer recall where I got these), but these do not use the normal 'light' properties to show the aspects, but have a set of special parts with correctly coloured textures which are rotated in place using semaphore signal settings. The parts which form these rotated lights have different LOD-related dimensions, and are clearly visible at greater distances.

            Regards,

            Rob Roeterdink

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