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  • wjcurrey
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    • Jun 2010
    • 28

    #1

    otto's cab



    Use the cab editor
  • UP_4848_Thunder
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    • Nov 2008
    • 370
    • Alhambra Sub MP 484/ Southern California
    • General

    #2
    Yep it's all about font height size and positioning changes. I first tried this in 0.7.0 and it came out great in that version.
    A RR Mad Lip: It's Better Not 2 Show un Finished work when the work isn't Complete Proudly then getting let down about it When Posting & telling as it's Boldly Not SaFe 2 Urr Progress or Suportive Parents as it is to Post Regularly Round. Stay.Secretly.Working. & it will Keep it Civil and Safe from Gimme Pigs & Strike Downers

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    • OTTODAD
      1
      • Feb 2001
      • 32344
      • England
      • General

      #3
      Originally posted by wjcurrey
      Use the cab editor
      You are joking ?

      Having to do that in numerous locos cabs, already having moded some cabs to my preferences ?

      I would not like having to make such multiple complicated changes in any Train Simulator, Payware or Freeware !

      What else would we have to modify so that ORTS does what MSTS can do ?

      O t t o

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      • mdeming
        Senior Member
        • Nov 1999
        • 677

        #4
        Originally posted by OTTODAD


        You are joking ?

        Having to do that in numerous locos cabs, already having moded some cabs to my preferences ?

        I would not like having to make such multiple complicated changes in any Train Simulator, Payware or Freeware !

        What else would we have to modify so that ORTS does what MSTS can do ?

        O t t o

        So dont use it.

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        • OTTODAD
          1
          • Feb 2001
          • 32344
          • England
          • General

          #5
          Having modified the cab view so that it suits ORTS what does it then look like in MSTS, I intend to carry on using until a release of ORTS can do better than all that MSTS does.

          O t t o

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          • UP_4848_Thunder
            Senior Member

            • Nov 2008
            • 370
            • Alhambra Sub MP 484/ Southern California
            • General

            #6
            What Ive started doing to fix digital related cabs or almost anything is make a OR seperate eng file and modified OR cab to suite the OR eng. Dial cabs usually don't need changes in my view except if there is 1 digital piece such as speed needle.
            A RR Mad Lip: It's Better Not 2 Show un Finished work when the work isn't Complete Proudly then getting let down about it When Posting & telling as it's Boldly Not SaFe 2 Urr Progress or Suportive Parents as it is to Post Regularly Round. Stay.Secretly.Working. & it will Keep it Civil and Safe from Gimme Pigs & Strike Downers

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            • OTTODAD
              1
              • Feb 2001
              • 32344
              • England
              • General

              #7
              Originally posted by UP_4848_Thunder
              What Ive started doing to fix digital related cabs or almost anything is make a OR separate eng file and modified OR cab to suite the OR eng. Dial cabs usually don't need changes in my view except if there is 1 digital piece such as speed needle.
              Changing the Font size of digital data displayed can only be done with the Cabview Editor for just that loco and has to be done for all other locos with have digital displays of running data, correct ?

              That having to be done with all locos used by MSTS they can then not be used for MSTS unless there are copies of their MSTS files which have had their digital data font size not changed and can be used to change the ORTS versions back to MSTS ones and also having copies of the ORTS versions they can then be renamed again for use in ORTS.

              Is there any other way of doing that for all locos used in MSTS which have digital displays in Cab Views, few being able to use the MSTS Cabview Editor and others not being comfortable with doing a lot of copying, pasting and renaming files in the WIN Explorer ?

              O t t o

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              • OTTODAD
                1
                • Feb 2001
                • 32344
                • England
                • General

                #8
                Originally posted by OTTODAD
                Changing the Font size of digital data displayed can only be done with the Cabview Editor, correct ?
                Wrong !

                It has been years since I used the MSTS Cabview editor and worked on this Dash-9, which appears to be the one from my mp3kcons.zip on my web site.

                Had a look at it in the Cabview editor and there is nowhere to change the point size of the fonts used by the digitals of forinstance the clock.

                Reducing the Y height of it is being ignored by ORTS.

                So where in MSTS can the size of these fonts be changed without affecting the ones used by the Driveraids in the MSTS GUI folder so that ORTS takes note of it and also does not change the color ?

                O t t o

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                • UP_4848_Thunder
                  Senior Member

                  • Nov 2008
                  • 370
                  • Alhambra Sub MP 484/ Southern California
                  • General

                  #9
                  Keep trying you will see a change. Try messing with the width size too.
                  A RR Mad Lip: It's Better Not 2 Show un Finished work when the work isn't Complete Proudly then getting let down about it When Posting & telling as it's Boldly Not SaFe 2 Urr Progress or Suportive Parents as it is to Post Regularly Round. Stay.Secretly.Working. & it will Keep it Civil and Safe from Gimme Pigs & Strike Downers

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                  • OTTODAD
                    1
                    • Feb 2001
                    • 32344
                    • England
                    • General

                    #10
                    Originally posted by UP_4848_Thunder
                    Keep trying you will see a change. Try messing with the width size too.
                    I have been using the MSTS editors since 2001 and my web site has many of the modifications I have made to it, routes, created my popular Gold-Spike-X route, tracks, rolling stock mods and much more.

                    Can you or any of the ORTS team show me how it is done using the MSTS Cab Editor so that it looks like what the OP has shown ?

                    O t t o

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                    • UP_4848_Thunder
                      Senior Member

                      • Nov 2008
                      • 370
                      • Alhambra Sub MP 484/ Southern California
                      • General

                      #11
                      Did you mess with the W: and H: values in Cab editor and not the Y: and X: values?
                      A RR Mad Lip: It's Better Not 2 Show un Finished work when the work isn't Complete Proudly then getting let down about it When Posting & telling as it's Boldly Not SaFe 2 Urr Progress or Suportive Parents as it is to Post Regularly Round. Stay.Secretly.Working. & it will Keep it Civil and Safe from Gimme Pigs & Strike Downers

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                      • wjcurrey
                        Member
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 28

                        #12
                        uploaded cvf.zip

                        dash9.zip
                        Originally posted by OTTODAD


                        I have been using the MSTS editors since 2001 and my web site has many of the modifications I have made to it, routes, created my popular Gold-Spike-X route, tracks, rolling stock mods and much more.

                        Can you or any of the ORTS team show me how it is done using the MSTS Cab Editor so that it looks like what the OP has shown ?

                        O t t o
                        Attached is the zip file for dash9.cvf ; use X1356 available from the open rails site.

                        The trick is to have the green outline fit the text block. As noted by UP_4848_Thuder this is achieved by the W: and H: values.
                        Once the green box is obtained holding down the left mouse button you can position where you want it placed.

                        Running the .cvf files with MSTS does not appear to have any adverse effects on the text placement.
                        FYI accelerometer is in the process of being implemented.
                        Last edited by wjcurrey; 12-11-2012, 23:10.

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                        • UP_4848_Thunder
                          Senior Member

                          • Nov 2008
                          • 370
                          • Alhambra Sub MP 484/ Southern California
                          • General

                          #13
                          Sorry if the 1st Pic is too small but you will notice a before and after mark while in cab editor by looking at the ER Brake Boxes selected in green and see difference in both sim pics as the 2nd MSTS and 3rd OR pics of this mod P42 cab.
                          Before_After_AE_Comparison_P42.jpgMSTS_Cab_P42.jpgOR_Cab_P42.jpg

                          My OR option for % 2d Cab stretch is 0.
                          A RR Mad Lip: It's Better Not 2 Show un Finished work when the work isn't Complete Proudly then getting let down about it When Posting & telling as it's Boldly Not SaFe 2 Urr Progress or Suportive Parents as it is to Post Regularly Round. Stay.Secretly.Working. & it will Keep it Civil and Safe from Gimme Pigs & Strike Downers

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                          • OTTODAD
                            1
                            • Feb 2001
                            • 32344
                            • England
                            • General

                            #14
                            Thanks for all the tips and suggestions but would prefer ORTS to display them in the size and color MSTS does.

                            Too much work having to do that myself with lots of locos !

                            Also creating an option to split it's massive F5-Hud into 2 or 3 smaller portions would be great !

                            Have suggested to ORTS a while ago that they should shift their attention from multi-player to perfecting the MSTS function so that they can use all or most of what the MSTS ones do and perhaps improve it, like much has already been done ?

                            Looks like it has not fallen on deaf ears !

                            I am ready for the next beta !


                            Amazon US and UK are again releasing MSTS for less than £ 20 so there should be even more interest in ORTS, being able to use masses of Freeware available for MSTS, more new excellent routes and DB Tracks modifications being released all the time !

                            O t t o

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                            • gpz
                              Member
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 49
                              • Budapest, Hungary

                              #15
                              Originally posted by OTTODAD
                              Thanks for all the tips and suggestions but would prefer ORTS to display them in the size and color MSTS does. Too much work having to do that myself with lots of locos !
                              It is at least the same amount of work for a developer to make the modifications, if he succeeds at all for such an undocumented behaviour. We should be glad having a 100% workaround available.
                              Originally posted by OTTODAD
                              Have suggested to ORTS a while ago that they should shift their attention from multi-player to perfecting the MSTS function so that they can use all or most of what the MSTS ones do and perhaps improve it, like much has already been done ? Looks like it has not fallen on deaf ears !
                              In case a developer likes to work on the multiplayer part, then we must appreciate it, since he is doing this work for fun. If he finds the fun in this kind of work, nobody can tell him to do that one instead, unless he is getting payed for that.
                              Peter Gulyas

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