3dts Cajon Pass Crash

**99262** · 10-15-2012, 11:04

Hi all:

I too am having an OR crash-to-desktop on the 3dts Cajon Pass.

OR loads and runs just fine, until the player train (have tried several different loco's including default equipment) exits Barstow Yard traveling on either the west or south-bound mains. At the same place in each instance, there's a slight shudder and the following error message pops up on screen. The program sound continues in the background, even though OR has clearly crashed.

Here is the contents of the error message...

SSSSSSSSSSSSTTTWSSSSSSWWSTTTWWW

Error: System.ArgumentNullException: Value cannot be null.
Parameter name: key
at System.ThrowHelper.ThrowArgumentNullException(Exce ptionArgument argument)
at System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2.FindEntry( TKey key)
at System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2.KeyCollect ion.System.Collections.Generic.ICollection<TKey>.C ontains(TKey item)
at System.Linq.Enumerable.Contains[TSource](IEnumerable`1 source, TSource value)
at ORTS.SoundProcess.RemoveSoundSource(Object viewer)
at ORTS.LevelCrossingShape.Dispose()
at ORTS.WorldFile.DisposeAndClearList[T](List`1& objects)
at ORTS.WorldFile.Dispose()
at ORTS.SceneryDrawer.Load()
at ORTS.World.Load()
at ORTS.Viewer3D.Load()
at ORTS.LoaderProcess.Load()
at ORTS.LoaderProcess.DoLoad()
at ORTS.LoaderProcess.LoaderThread()
at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart_Context( Object state)
at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionCon text executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state)
at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart()

If I had to guess, I would suspect an embedded track command that triggers a "track detector" message that can be heard in the cab.

Thanks to the OR team for all of the great work you've accomplished.

Les Root

Edit: I should have pointed out that this crash occurs using build 0.8.0, and all of the subsequent experimental builds. I have run OR successfuly on the Cajon, in some earlier builds but I can't remember the numbers.

**rustybolts** · 10-16-2012, 06:52

I am having the same issue on the Tehachapi Pass route. I wonder if there is something from 3dts that Open Rails is having an issue with.
Aaron

**crstagg** · 10-16-2012, 08:58

Originally posted by 99262

Hi all:

I too am having an OR crash-to-desktop on the 3dts Cajon Pass.

OR loads and runs just fine, until the player train (have tried several different loco's including default equipment) exits Barstow Yard traveling on either the west or south-bound mains. At the same place in each instance, there's a slight shudder and the following error message pops up on screen. The program sound continues in the background, even though OR has clearly crashed.

Here is the contents of the error message...

SSSSSSSSSSSSTTTWSSSSSSWWSTTTWWW

Error: System.ArgumentNullException: Value cannot be null.
Parameter name: key
at System.ThrowHelper.ThrowArgumentNullException(Exce ptionArgument argument)
at System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2.FindEntry( TKey key)
at System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2.KeyCollect ion.System.Collections.Generic.ICollection<TKey>.C ontains(TKey item)
at System.Linq.Enumerable.Contains[TSource](IEnumerable`1 source, TSource value)
at ORTS.SoundProcess.RemoveSoundSource(Object viewer)
at ORTS.LevelCrossingShape.Dispose()
at ORTS.WorldFile.DisposeAndClearList[T](List`1& objects)
at ORTS.WorldFile.Dispose()
at ORTS.SceneryDrawer.Load()
at ORTS.World.Load()
at ORTS.Viewer3D.Load()
at ORTS.LoaderProcess.Load()
at ORTS.LoaderProcess.DoLoad()
at ORTS.LoaderProcess.LoaderThread()
at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart_Context( Object state)
at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionCon text executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state)
at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart()

If I had to guess, I would suspect an embedded track command that triggers a "track detector" message that can be heard in the cab.

Thanks to the OR team for all of the great work you've accomplished.

Les Root

Edit: I should have pointed out that this crash occurs using build 0.8.0, and all of the subsequent experimental builds. I have run OR successfuly on the Cajon, in some earlier builds but I can't remember the numbers.

Confirm. I get the same error exiting Barstow yard.

**99262** · 10-16-2012, 12:40

Charles:

Thanks for the confirm and attaching the complete OpenRailsLog. I'm an old-timer and long-time lurker on these boards, but these are my first posts.

I spend most of my train-simming on "The Monon" (which also has some apparent signal issues with OR 0.8.0).

The reason I dusted-off and reinstalled the Cajon, is to explore the possibilities of using the new AI model in 0.8.0 on the Cajon.

When operating through the Cajon Pass, especially on the Hi-Line, it's possible (when everything works right) to view three or four AI trains at the same time. Very exciting stuff.

Again, thanks for the confirm and best regards,

Les Root

**crstagg** · 10-16-2012, 15:33

Originally posted by 99262

Charles:

Thanks for the confirm and attaching the complete OpenRailsLog. I'm an old-timer and long-time lurker on these boards, but these are my first posts.

I spend most of my train-simming on "The Monon" (which also has some apparent signal issues with OR 0.8.0).

The reason I dusted-off and reinstalled the Cajon, is to explore the possibilities of using the new AI model in 0.8.0 on the Cajon.

When operating through the Cajon Pass, especially on the Hi-Line, it's possible (when everything works right) to view three or four AI trains at the same time. Very exciting stuff.

Again, thanks for the confirm and best regards,

Les Root

You're welcome. I think it is always important to confirm a problem be testing on a different system.

Rustybolts,
Your comment was not specific enough to confirm. What starting point did you use and where in the route did the error occur?

**rustybolts** · 10-16-2012, 21:11

Charles,
Sorry for my comment lacking information. I typed it while at work. I just ran another senario starting at the Revelation siding going into Barstow, I believe, and got another error. This one mentioned an object reference and a level crossing. It was the SF_C-BAR_STO2-02 activity. Unfortunately I will be working back to back 16 hour days and will not be able to re-run the activity I was talking about in the previous post until maybe Friday.
Here is my log file for the activity from tonight:
Version = 0.8.0.1251
Build = 0.0.4651.25832 09/25/2012 Tue 03:21 PM
Logfile = C:\Users\Aaron\Desktop\OpenRailsLog.txt
------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- --------
Alerter = False
AvatarURL = (registry) http://www.openrails.org/images/ICONmediumOD.jpg
BrakePipeChargingRate = 21
BreakCouplers = False
Cab2DStretch = 0
DataLogger = False
DynamicShadows = (registry) True
FullScreen = (registry) True
GraduatedRelease = False
Logging = True
LoggingFilename = OpenRailsLog.txt
LoggingPath = C:\Users\Aaron\Desktop
Menu_Selection =
MSTSBINSound = (registry) True
Multiplayer = False
Multiplayer_Host = (registry)
Multiplayer_Port = 30000
Multiplayer_UpdateInterval = 10
Multiplayer_User = (registry)
MultiplayerClient = False
MultiplayerServer = False
Precipitation = (registry) True
Profiling = False
ProfilingFrameCount = 0
ProfilingTime = 0
ScreenshotPath = C:\Users\Aaron\Pictures\Open Rails
ShaderModel = 0
ShadowAllShapes = False
ShadowMapBlur = True
ShadowMapCount = 4
ShadowMapDistance = 0
ShadowMapResolution = 1024
ShowAvatar = False
ShowErrorDialogs = True
SoundDetailLevel = 5
SuppressConfirmations = False
TrainLights = (registry) True
UseAdvancedAdhesion = True
VerticalSync = False
ViewDispatcher = (registry) True
ViewingDistance = 2000
ViewingFOV = 45
WindowGlass = (registry) True
WindowPosition_Activity = 50, 50
WindowPosition_Compass = 50, 0
WindowPosition_ComposeMessage = 50, 50
WindowPosition_DriverAid = (registry) 100, 100
WindowPosition_Help = (registry) 53, 46
WindowPosition_NextStation = 0, 100
WindowPosition_Quit = 50, 50
WindowPosition_Switch = 0, 50
WindowPosition_TrackMonitor = 100, 0
WindowPosition_TrainOperations = (registry) 80, 88
WindowSize = 1024x768
Wire = False
WorldObjectDensity = 10
------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- --------
Mode = Activity
Activity = C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\ROUTES\3DTS_TEH2\ACTIVITIES\3DTS_TEH2_SF _C-BAR_STO_2-02 [Part 1].act
------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- --------
Loading TRK TDB SIGCFG DAT ACT RDB CARSPAWN SIGSCR
W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) W(repeats) WWWWWW

I hope that it helps. I also want to thank everyone on the Open Rails team for all of their hard work on breathing new life into the old sim. So far it is great work! I hope this helps.
Aaron

**sniper297** · 10-17-2012, 20:25

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games

Whenever I see that x86 I know it's Win7 or Vista. Anyone tried moving the \Train Simulator folder to the root of C:\ to check if the UAC guard dog is having a fit about an outside program accessing a folder in the one it protects so zealously?

**crstagg** · 10-17-2012, 20:47

Originally posted by sniper297

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games

Whenever I see that x86 I know it's Win7 or Vista. Anyone tried moving the \Train Simulator folder to the root of C:\ to check if the UAC guard dog is having a fit about an outside program accessing a folder in the one it protects so zealously?

My MSTS is in C:\MSTS and I have the same results as the OP. So UAC is not the culprit.

**wjcurrey** · 10-18-2012, 00:31

Attached is a log file for an exception similar to the attached log text from this post:

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Confirm. I get the same error exiting Barstow yard.

Attached Files Attached Files

File Type: txt OpenRailsLog.txt (15.2 KB, 7 views)

Last edited by crstagg; 10-16-2012 at 03:06 PM.
================================================== ==========================

Was able to correct the problem by doing the following:
Copy D:\1MSTS\ROUTES\USA2\Sound\crossing.sms
To: D:\1MSTS\ROUTES\3DTS_TEH2\SOUND\crossing.sms

I don't have the Cajon route, this is the Tehachapi route, fixing crossing.sms may help on Cajon also.

Attached Files

OpenRailsLogBomb.zip (2.9 KB, 13 views)

**99262** · 10-19-2012, 10:56

Originally posted by wjcurrey

Attached is a log file for an exception similar to the attached log text from this post:

================================================== =============

Confirm. I get the same error exiting Barstow yard.

Attached Files Attached Files

File Type: txt OpenRailsLog.txt (15.2 KB, 7 views)

Last edited by crstagg; 10-16-2012 at 03:06 PM.
================================================== ==========================

Was able to correct the problem by doing the following:
Copy D:\1MSTS\ROUTES\USA2\Sound\crossing.sms
To: D:\1MSTS\ROUTES\3DTS_TEH2\SOUND\crossing.sms

I don't have the Cajon route, this is the Tehachapi route, fixing crossing.sms may help on Cajon also.

That did the trick...I get a slight shudder at that same point in the route, but NO crash to desktop.

Thank you very much,

Les Root

**drjayyy** · 10-20-2012, 03:55

Thanks. But I already know about the crossing sms. issue and fixed that. The strange thing is if I try to ride through a particular spot the game crashes in cabview or trackside view. If I hit the 8 key before that spot and wait and let the train go through no problem.

**westerngy** · 10-20-2012, 16:23

Does your copy of the route work right wihtout OR using only MSTS.

3dts Cajon Pass Crash

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