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  • monon15
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    • May 2010
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    #1

    Missing Consists

    Last night I was letting my wife run some consists over a route in Open Rails when she informed me they were not there. I told her they were as I had test run the consists in MSTS - upon checking out OR I noticed they were missing. They show up and are able to be utilized fine in MSTS is there a reason why OR doesn't recognize or display them?
  • crstagg
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    #2
    Originally posted by monon15
    Last night I was letting my wife run some consists over a route in Open Rails when she informed me they were not there. I told her they were as I had test run the consists in MSTS - upon checking out OR I noticed they were missing. They show up and are able to be utilized fine in MSTS is there a reason why OR doesn't recognize or display them?
    Are we supposed to guess what is in the consists? Have you compared the consists to see if the have the same items? Same Loco?
    Charles

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    • monon15
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      • May 2010
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      #3
      Yes, I thought that was obvious by my original post. Each is the same consist - both being loaded from the same directory. In MSTS it shows up fine and I can run the engine and consist with no problems but in OR it doesn't even show up as a choice in the drop down list.

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      • crstagg
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        #4
        Originally posted by monon15
        Yes, I thought that was obvious by my original post. Each is the same consist - both being loaded from the same directory. In MSTS it shows up fine and I can run the engine and consist with no problems but in OR it doesn't even show up as a choice in the drop down list.
        ??? "Missing Consists" is plural. "they were not there" Plural "I told her they were" Plural "I noticed they were missing." Plural "They show up" Plural and "or display them" again plural.
        How is that obvious that it is the same consist?

        Post the first 20 lines of the CON file, so we have something to work with.
        Charles

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        • monon15
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          • May 2010
          • 254

          #5
          Ok, maybe this will make it more clear since it is obvious a struggle for some:

          I have a consist that displays and runs properly in MSTS and when I load OR it does not display the Engine or Consist as an option. Here is the consist file:

          Train (
          TrainCfg ( Gordon_The_Big_Engine
          Name ( "Engine + Tender Only" )
          Serial ( 1 )
          MaxVelocity ( 40.00000 1.00000 )
          NextWagonUID ( 2 )
          Durability ( 1.00000 )
          Engine (
          UiD ( 0 )
          EngineData ( Gordon mstsgord )
          )
          Wagon (
          WagonData ( gordontender mstsgord )
          UiD ( 1 )
          )
          )
          )

          This is not the ONLY consist that does this - I have other Engines & Consists that do not show up in OR but do in MSTS.

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          • crstagg
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            #6
            Appears that the Consist was created by an old version of ConBuilder. I see nothing wrong with the consist. So must be something to do with the contents.
            (You did not include the "SIMISA@@@@@@@@@@JINX0D0t______" Line. I assume that it is present.)

            Which OR meue style are you using? The one that allows you to select the ENG and the Consist. Or the one that only lists just the consists?

            This is not the ONLY consist that does this - I have other Engines & Consists that do not show up in OR but do in MSTS.
            Do the other consists also have the Gordon as the lead loco?
            Charles

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            • monon15
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              • May 2010
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              #7
              Originally posted by crstagg
              Appears that the Consist was created by an old version of ConBuilder. I see nothing wrong with the consist. So must be something to do with the contents.
              (You did not include the "SIMISA@@@@@@@@@@JINX0D0t______" Line. I assume that it is present.)

              Which OR meue style are you using? The one that allows you to select the ENG and the Consist. Or the one that only lists just the consists?



              Do the other consists also have the Gordon as the lead loco?
              Yes, I did not include that line when I copy and pasted it - but it is indeed there.

              I am using the OR Menu that allows you to select the ENG and then the Consist.

              No, this is the only one with Gordon as the lead loco. The others are a B&O E8 and a Monon F3.

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              • crstagg
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                #8
                Well the CON file was at fault. A CON file created from what you posted as the contents would not show up in ConBuilder either.

                Here is why:
                The Uid line for the Wagon was out of place.

                To fix Change
                Wagon (
                WagonData ( gordontender mstsgord )
                UiD ( 1 )

                to

                Wagon (U
                iD ( 1 )
                WagonData ( gordontender mstsgord )
                Charles

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                • monon15
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 254

                  #9
                  When I switch to the other menu style in OR it still does not show up.

                  [EDIT]

                  Made the change you suggested and neither the consist nor the loco show up in either OR Menu.
                  Last edited by monon15; 09-17-2012, 10:57.

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                  • monon15
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                    • May 2010
                    • 254

                    #10
                    I changed the Consist display name and re-saved the file and now it shows up in the OR Menu that allows you to select the Consist. It still does not show the Loco in the other OR Menu - so not sure why it now will recognize the Consist but not display the Loco's name.

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                    • crstagg
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by monon15
                      I changed the Consist display name and re-saved the file and now it shows up in the OR Menu that allows you to select the Consist. It still does not show the Loco in the other OR Menu - so not sure why it now will recognize the Consist but not display the Loco's name.
                      As I did not have that Loco I had to edit the EngineData and WagonData lines. Make sure that the Filename of the ENG file EXACTLY matches the 2 Wagon lines and the Engine line in the ENG file. Remember Gordon does not equal gordon. Also check to make sure that the filename and foldername in the EngineData line in the CON file match the actual file and folder names. Probably need to run Route Riter's 6 step process under the Activities/Stock tab.
                      Charles

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                      • monon15
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 254

                        #12
                        Originally posted by crstagg
                        As I did not have that Loco I had to edit the EngineData and WagonData lines. Make sure that the Filename of the ENG file EXACTLY matches the 2 Wagon lines and the Engine line in the ENG file. Remember Gordon does not equal gordon. Also check to make sure that the filename and foldername in the EngineData line in the CON file match the actual file and folder names. Probably need to run Route Riter's 6 step process under the Activities/Stock tab.
                        Verified that, as that was the first thing I thought might be wrong. Also, ran it through RR and found no errors - everything checked out ok. It seems like it might be a problem with the one menu in OR.

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                        • monon15
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                          • May 2010
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                          #13
                          What is the Train Database that OR "loads" and where is this stored. I am wondering if the Gordon loco is not being added to it, as in the OR Menu where you select the consist that particular one shows up and everything runs and looks ok.

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                          • crstagg
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                            #14
                            OR uses the same Train database as MSTS. That is ....Train Simulator\TRAINS\TRAINSET
                            Charles

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                            • monon15
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                              • May 2010
                              • 254

                              #15
                              That is what I thought, but just wanted to confirm it wasn't doing anything else - still odd that it recognizes the Consist and displays it correctly but does not show the Loco in the OR Menu.

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