Problem: Signals not working

[KingOfLions]

Hi,

due to problems with my own sigcfg and sigscr i cross verified it with other routes. I encountered that for all Austrian MSTS routes, the signals do not really work. This ranges - depending on the route - from black signals to missing signal heads.

a) is there any documentation on the differences between MSTS and OR signals?

b) what might cause the strange behaviour?

btw: my first own signal (simple signal, entire object as "main") works correctly. So the problem seems to be with signals containing subobjects.

The log file message is

STF Error in D:\MSTS\ROUTES\LavantTalBahn\World\w-005570+014704.w
Line 656: Die Eingabezeichenfolge hat das falsche Format.

Kind regards
Alfred

[seagoon]

Austin Yoder's "Horseshoe Curve" also has missing signal heads under OR.
BK

[csantucci]

The OR dev team has already stated more than once that signalling in version 7.0 is far from being fully operating. Next version should bring us great improvements in signalling.

Carlo

[seagoon]

The OR dev team has already stated more than once that signalling in version 7.0 is far from being fully operating. Next version should bring us great improvements in signalling.....

Very true.
There may be a difference between what is non-operational and what is non-appearing, however.

BK

[KingOfLions]

Where do i find
a) a development roadmap
b) route/object developer documentation (or requirement specifications)

Kind reagrds

[trampeltier]

ad a) www.openrails.org/roadmap
ad b) www.openrails.org/release

[lindsayts]

Very true.
There may be a difference between what is non-operational and what is non-appearing, however.

BK

On one of the forums (trainsim.com, Uktrainsim or ElvasTower) one of the developers has acknowledge the problem of signal heads not appearing, from memory said it was a problem in the sig config file that OR was missreading.
I did not bother to report the problem as they clearly already knew about it.

[longiron]

The issue of signal subobjects not showing has been fixed in the latest development build.

[crimsonfloyd]

Hi Chris,
By "subobjects" are you talking about the little kind of dominoe looking things that shouldn`t be there that stick up around signals ? You told me once they were something with signals that Jovet created. Anyway, I still get them, mainly on Horseshoe Curve and I see them on Surfliner 2 as well. I am running the newest release (at least I think so !!) of Open Rails, 0.7.0.905. Just asking. I know Open Rails is an ongoing work in progress and since I started using it last year I really like it and find I can`t wait until the next release comes out.

Thanks for all the hard work,

MARK

[longiron]

Mark,
Thanks for the heads up. The new development build has a totally re-worked signaling implementation. I will check the routes & locations you highlighted on Horseshoe.

[twpol]

Hi Chris,
By "subobjects" are you talking about the little kind of dominoe looking things that shouldn`t be there that stick up around signals ? You told me once they were something with signals that Jovet created. Anyway, I still get them, mainly on Horseshoe Curve and I see them on Surfliner 2 as well. I am running the newest release (at least I think so !!) of Open Rails, 0.7.0.905. Just asking. I know Open Rails is an ongoing work in progress and since I started using it last year I really like it and find I can`t wait until the next release comes out.

That's not quite the meaning, but it could be a similar problem (the ones on Horseshoe are not fixed yet, I just checked). A signal "subobject" is a component of a full signal shape that may or may not be visible at any given location; e.g. you make a model with the main set of lights and 6 fethers (3 each side) - you can define each fether as a signal subobject and then re-use the same shape ever if you don't need all 6, or even any at all, of the fethers. It was this that had a fix made to it. I'm not sure what the issue with on Horseshoe but if we figure it out we'll be sure to fix it.

[apco25]

Those little grey boxes shows up on the LSRC as well...

[UP_4848_Thunder]

Those are signal shapes for marker and linking purposes for joseph signals. You will knotice in msts that there underground. One cure might be is find the shape or and textures and alpha it out.