OR and DB Tracks compatibility?

[apco25]

No, this is an OR problem as the DB tracks shapes display just fine when the route is run by MSTS! The route was converted using dynatracks. The route in question Maple Leaf Tracks, Willamette Pass aka Cascades Crossing that was custom moasic'd and then converted to DB tracks.

[OTTODAD]

As you can see from the screenshots I have posted in this thread that ORTS has no problems displaying them and as nobody else has reported ORTS not showing them properly I would suggest that your problem is being caused by what you are doing !

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To make sure that ORTS has no problems with DB-Tracks no matter how they are being used, my DB-TRACKS-ROUTES MINI or Norbert Rieger's method of editing World files, I ran Dave Richtmyer's DB-Tracks update for the 3DTS Donner Pass and below shows it in ORTS !

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[apco25]

What I was trying to determine if this was an OR problem dispaying certain shapes or a problem with how the route was converted to DB tracks. I swear no one is reading what I post. I have 3 other routes using DB tracks that work just fine in OR, except for the Cascades Crossing version.

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Like I have shown before, below are the routes I am using DB-Tracks in and none of them as well as the Dave's Donner Pass DB-Tracks update have a problem running in ORTS.

Logic would suggest that if they all work then so should others, if they have been converted properly.

As nobody else has reported problems running DB-Tracks routes in ORTS that would indicate that your problems are self-inflicted !

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[apco25]

How is this self inflicted? I didn't convert this route! Since DB tracks is being developed as is OpenRails my whole point of asking the question was to determine if the problem was incorrectly converted or and actual problem with shape display. All my other DB tracks routes work and display properly. Just because all your DB tracks routes work doesn't mean it will for everyone else. Besides, Otto, as far as I'm aware you do everything in mini-routes, I don't and that does make a difference.

[AmtrakFan454]

Alright...let's see if this is a variable...

Do any of the routes contain Xtracks shapes?

[muskokaandtahoe]

What? Track files belong in the Global\Shapes folder. Just because his shapes aren't yet in the standardized tsection.dat doesn't mean they must be prohibited from going there. That's where MSTS expects them, and that's where they belong.

Nope. Track shapes can be where ever the world file says they are (and, FWIW, the .s shape can be whatever shape you want: snakes on alligators for instance). The software doesn't "care" and so long as the file is found and displayed (w/o stepping on the toes of any other route) neither should we.

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Nope. Track shapes can be where ever the world file says they are (and, FWIW, the .s shape can be whatever shape you want: snakes on alligators for instance). The software doesn't "care" and so long as the file is found and displayed (w/o stepping on the toes of any other route) neither should we.

Using the WORLD files to change tracks to forinstance Scalerail is doing it the hard way, having to know first which types X-Tracks shapes it uses.

I am using a special MINI route for DB-Tracks and have renamed all their Shape files to their equivalent X-Tracks names. All that is then necessary is to COPY the CB-Tracks textures into the route's Textures folder and then run one of my 4 different DB-Tracks types BATCH files to suit the route, wood ties for older and concrete ties for modern ones, with or without manual switch stands, done in a split second like my MSTS Tracks-Changers do.

Those who are familiar with Dynatrax can then have it convert the route's MSTS Dynamic tracks to DB-Tracks and if they have TSUtils can use it to lift all the SB-Tracks a few centimeters so that all of their trackbeds are above the terrain.

Here are my DB-Tracks MINI routes to date: www.otto-wipfel.co.uk/db-tracks-routes

Other routes can be added at any time, but to start with will not show their Dynamic tracks using DB-Tracks textures and show Dave Richtmyer' look-alike ones instead.

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O.K., here is what it takes to convert just one route to DB-Tracks the hard way, which has to be repeated in others:

Using RouteRiter un-compress all it's World.w files.
Using UltraEdit-32 or similar find all A1t shapes in all of them and copy result to a text file.
Do the same for A2t, A3t and A4t.
Merge all 4 text files into one.
Using EXCEL SORT it Alphabetically and delete all duplications.

Here are just the X-Tracks A1t shapes the Surfliner-2 uses:

A1t0_3mStrt.s
A1t0_44mStrt.s
A1t0_8mStrt.s
A1t1_29mStrt.s
A1t1_2mStrt.s
A1t1_5mStrt.s
A1t1000r10d.s
A1t1000r10dTun.s
A1t1000r1d.s
A1t1000r20d.s
A1t1000r5d.s
A1t100mStrt.s
A1t100mStrtTun.s
A1t10mStrt.s
A1t10mStrtDummy.s
A1t10mStrtTun.s
A1t11_59mStrt.s
A1t120r10d.s
A1t120r1d.s
A1t120r20d.s
A1t120r5d.s
A1t13_2mStrt.s
A1t15_56mStrt.s
A1t15000r2_5d.s
A1t1500r10d.s
A1t1500r1d.s
A1t1500r1d.s
A1t1500r20d.s
A1t1500r5d.s
A1t150mStrt.s
A1t150r10d.s
A1t150r1d.s
A1t150r20d.s
A1t150r5d.s
A1t15mStrt.s
A1t16_6mStrt.s
A1t164r10d.s
A1t17_41mStrt.s
A1t190r10d.s
A1t190r1d.s
A1t190r2_5d.s
A1t190r20d.s
A1t190r5d.s
A1t1mStrt.s
A1t2_14mStrt.s
A1t2_46mStrt.s
A1t2_4mStrt.s
A1t2_5mStrt.s
A1t2_6mStrt.s
A1t20_5mStrt.s
A1t2000r10d.s
A1t2000r1d.s
A1t2000r20d.s
A1t2000r5d.s
A1t200mStrt.s
A1t20mStrt.s
A1t23_6mStrt.s
A1t24mStrt.s
A1t25_8mStrt.s
A1t250mStrt.s
A1t250mStrtDummy.s
A1t250r10d.s
A1t250r10dTun.s
A1t250r1d.s
A1t250r20d.s
A1t250r5d.s
A1t25mStrt.s
A1t25mStrtDummy.s
A1t27_4mStrt.s
A1t27mTurntable.s
A1t28_3mStrt.s
A1t28_54mStrt.s
A1t28_7mStrt.s
A1t3000r10d.s
A1t3000r1d.s
A1t3000r5d.s
A1t300r10d.s
A1t300r1d.s
A1t300r20d.s
A1t300r5d.s
A1t30dTramRgt.s
A1t30mStrt.s
A1t35mStrt.s
A1t375r10d.s
A1t375r1d.s
A1t375r20d.s
A1t375r5d.s
A1t3mStrt.s
A1t4_985mStrt.s
A1t4000r10d.s
A1t4000r5d.s
A1t40mStrt.s
A1t44_46mStrt.s
A1t45dYardCrvLft.s
A1t45mStrt.s
A1t5_4mStrt.s
A1t500mStrt.s
A1t500r10d.s
A1t500r10dTun.s
A1t500r1d.s
A1t500r20d.s
A1t500r2d.s
A1t500r5d.s
A1t500r5d.s
A1t50mStrt.s
A1t50mStrtTun.s
A1t52_5mStrt.s
A1t56_6mStrt.s
A1t5mStrt.s
A1t6000r5d.s
A1t60mStrt.s
A1t60r10d.s
A1t60r1d.s
A1t60r20d.s
A1t60r5d.s
A1t750r10d.s
A1t750r1d.s
A1t750r20d.s
A1t750r5d.s
A1t75mStrt.s
A1t7mStrt.s
A1t8000r1d.s
A1t8000r5d.s
A1t865r12d.s
A1t90mStrt.s
A1t90r10d.s
A1t90r20d.s
A1t90r5d.s
A1tBuffer.s
A1tDblSlip10d150r.s
A1tEndPnt10dLft.s
A1tEndPnt10dRgt.s
A1tEndPnt3d.s
A1tEndPnt3to10d.s
A1tEndPnt5dLft.s
A1tEndPnt5dRgt.s
A1tEndPnt6d.s
A1tEndPnt7_5d.s
A1tFrog4_7dLft.s
A1tFrog5dLft.s
A1tFrog5dRgt.s
A1tPnt0dLftMnl.s
A1tPnt0dRgtMnl.s
A1tPnt1000r12dLftMnl.s
A1tPnt1000r8dLftMnl.s
A1tPnt10d150rLftMnl.s
A1tPnt10d150rLftMnl_Div.s
A1tPnt10d150rLftSlipMnl.s
A1tPnt10d150rRgtMnl.s
A1tPnt10d150rRgtSlipMnl.s
A1tPnt10dLftMnl.s
A1tPnt10dRgtMnl.s
A1tPnt3dLftMnl.s
A1tPnt3dRgtMnl.s
A1tPnt4_7dLftMnl.s
A1tPnt4_7dLftMnl.s
A1tPnt500r12dRgtMnl.s
A1tPnt5dLftMnl.s
A1tPnt5dRgt.s
A1tPnt5dRgtMnl.s
A1tPnt5dSLft.s
A1tPnt5dSLftMnl.s
A1tPnt5dSRgt.s
A1tPnt5dSRgtMnl.s
A1tPnt6dBRgtMnl.s
A1tPnt7_5dLftMnl.s
A1tPntM120rD090rLftMnl.s
A1tPntM120rD090rRgt.s
A1tPntM120rD090rRgtMnl.s
A1tPntM150rD090rLftMnl.s
A1tPntM150rD090rRgtMnl.s
A1tPntM150rD090rRgtMnl.s
A1tPntM150rD120rLftMnl.s
A1tPntM250rD120rRgtMnl.s
A1tPntM250rD150rLftMnl.s
A1tSglSlip10d150r.s
A1tUSBuffer.s
A1tXover10d.s
A1tXover12d.s
A1tXover12dB.s
A1tXover26d.s
A1tXover32d.s
A1tXover45d.s
A1tXover62d.s
A1tXover75d.s
A1tXover79d.s
A1tXover90d.s
A1tYPnt10d.s
A1tYPnt10d.s
A1tYPnt10dMnl.s

Then UltraEdit-32 or similar has to be used to FIND and REPLACE one after the other of these X-Tracks for which Norbert Rieger has created a DB-Tracks shape in all World.w files, many not yet available, in particular some of the later switches additions to X-Tracks.

X-Tracks which can not be replaced with DB-Tracks have to use Dave Richtmyers DB-Tracks lookalike Acelantrack1/2.ace files in their Textures folders.

Do that for every route to be converted to DB-Tracks all over again ?

No way !

Doing it my way, using DB-Tracks for any X-Tracks route after adding it to my DB-TRACKS-ROUTES MINI could not be easier, even for less experienced computer and MSTS users, converting it's Dynamic tracks to DB-Tracks or not !

There have been hundreds of downloads of my DB-TRACKS-ROUTES MINI setup and some of the available routes for it so far, despite having had to close down my website do to some maintenance in October and November, indicating that some now have a lot of FUN running DB-Tracks routes !

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Here I have simply added the ATSF Seligman-2 to my DB-TRACKS-ROUTES MINI, not having done anything to it:

http://www.otto-wipfel.co.uk/video/d...seligman-2.wmv

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