Problem with saving in Open Rails

[hminky]

I had this problem when I ran an activity with switching in Clovis. The save file grew after a session of switching to ten times the size before switching and ramped up after that until the activity went to "mush" and wouldn't load. I reported that. I just thought that the problem was a glitch in Clovis and I was 5 hours into the route. The activity was generated in Activity Generator. The save file was 588,884 KB's when it crashed.

I just "ran" trains the length of Marias Pass and Donner and had no problems. The save file from Donner was 139 KB.

I am running another activity on the Lasalle, Rockford and Central and I am experiencing the same save issue. The save file is beginning to grow after a switching operation and 3-1/2 hours, before it was 583 KB and now after switching a "town" it has grown to 211,634 KB. Nothing in the log file has changed. The activity was generated in Activity Generator.

I run these activities in multiple saves not in one long single sittings.

I didn't have this problems in earlier versions of OR.

Thank you
Harold

[hminky]

Ran the same activity again in 0.6.1.677 in Lasalle, Rockford and Central. It consists of switching out 5 hoppers and 2 tank cars at Cargill coming from Granville.

The initial save at Cargill was 469 KB and after switching out the 5 hoppers it was 3,539 KB.

Harold

EDIT: At the end of the switching the save was 11,671 KB.

I also had problems with the locomotives in 0.7. I had to Control-E to switch locos to change directions while switching.

[hminky]

Ran the activity all the way to Rockford in 677 and every time I saved there was a big jump in save file size ending with 114,493 KB

Harold

[hminky]

Ran the activity from the save at Cargill in .7 and saved every 5 miles. Started to break up 3.5 miles from Rockford. Saved and OpenRails won't load the saved game at 3.5 miles. Gray screen and sound just like Clovis.

Save file was 344,256 KB.

Harold

[hminky]

Tried another activity in LRC using OpenRails646 and have the same problem. At the first stop up the mainline the Save.bin begins to expand greatly. Probably won't crash the program since it is only 1318 KB from 400.

I guess of those "80,000" downloads no one uses OpenRails. Seems to be no reports of problems.

Harold

[longiron]

We have just completed the SAVE function in the development version to include the "state" of the Activity, i.e. what pickups and drop offs have been completed or not. We will be doing a lot of testing of the SAVE and RESTORE function from v0.7 on, which will include LSRC GrnvlSw5 & GrnvlSw7 activities. So, we should identify any problems, bugs or issues with the SAVE/RESTORE functions.

[lindsayts]

We have just completed the SAVE function in the development version to include the "state" of the Activity, i.e. what pickups and drop offs have been completed or not. We will be doing a lot of testing of the SAVE and RESTORE function from v0.7 on, which will include LSRC GrnvlSw5 & GrnvlSw7 activities. So, we should identify any problems, bugs or issues with the SAVE/RESTORE functions.

Just a minor point I noticed recently in saved OR session on restore the fuel level has not been saved and the loco starts at its default fuel level. Has this been included?

Lindsay

[csantucci]

I hope also multiple saves will be supported like in MSTS. That should be only a file management problem.

Carlo

[longiron]

I hope also multiple saves will be supported like in MSTS. That should be only a file management problem.

Carlo

Carlo,
that's definitely on the TO DO list

[hminky]

Generated an activity in Activity Generator to switch Peru on the Lasalle. I minimized to no AI and no car fill. The activity save was up to 480 KB after last pickup which would end the activity.Experimenting I pulled away and the save jumped to 1480 KB.

I experimented with deleting the message section of the .act file on the earlier mentioned activity and just leaving the car placement sections. That made the saves smaller, within reason compared to with having those sections in the .act file. That was with full fill and AI in the activity generator. The last save was only 2300 KB compared to 211,000 KB.

Will now try with no fill cars, no AI and deleting the messages.

I am a "way-freighter" and just want to switch cars.

Harold

[hminky]

Ran the Peru Activity after deleting the "Outcome" lines in the .act file and the final Save.Bin was 117 KB instead of 480 KB. The "pull-away" was only 206 KB.

Now that I have a work-around OpenRails is a great "sim" for "way-freighting".

Harold

[csantucci]

Carlo,
that's definitely on the TO DO list

Thanks Chris!