How coupling works in Open Rails

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  • longiron
    1000 Post Veteran and Moderator

    • Jan 2007
    • 1453
    • Just south of NYC

    #1

    How coupling works in Open Rails

    Coupling for Open Rails is very different from MSTS. Open Rails simulates most of the prototype steps required for coupling to static cars. The following steps are required to successfully couple.

    First, once you've coupled to a cut of cars, the train brake air line must be connected. Press the backslash key (\) to connect the air line. You can see the status of the train brake air line using the F5 HUD. Pressing SHIFT + F5 will bring up the braking, adhesion, AI and debug menus.

    Second, all static cuts of cars have their handbrakes set to 100% by default. To release the handbrakes, press the SHIFT + Colon ( key to release all handbrakes for the cut you have coupled to. This must be done for each new cut.

    Third, once the above steps are completed, the train brake air line will begin to charge. If you don't want to wait the prototypical amount of time to charge the train brake line, press SHIFT + Question mark (?) key to immediately charge the train brake air line. For the quick charge key combination to work, your speed must be ZERO and the locomotive power must be set to ZERO. If the throttle is in a power position, or the train speed is NOT ZERO, then the quick charging key combination will not work.
    Chris
    "True rail fans have two favorite railroads. The B&O and one other."
  • KingOfLions
    Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 22

    #2
    From my point of view, i prefer a more realistic behaviour. However, a MSTS compatibility mode should be considered for the following reasons:

    a) Too many new functions make the change from MTST to OR to complicated, thus might cause a bad image for OR.

    b) Not in all cases the handbrakes of wagons are set (use of brake shoes/stop blocks)

    c) wagons can be set out with open (braking) or closed (non braking) brake valves ... closed brake valves are used on roll off hills or during normal roll off operation!

    d) the operation of handbrakes and brake valves is NOT the responsibility of the train driver. Therefore this function is additional work, which ist not realistic (even of course necessary for normal train operation). Of course pressure up times (pressure loss on the loco at coupling) must of course be considered.

    So, if you plan to be realistic ... either be fully realistic, not only in complicating an unnecessary parts for the train driver! As i do not see a possibility to simulate the handbrake control of wagons (or brake shoes, or computer controlled breaking equipment for roll off hills) i think this complication is unnecessary.

    Kind regards
    Alfred

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    • mikephfl
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2004
      • 524
      • Clearwater, FL

      #3
      I like this new realism. As for the different types of brake options, what they have done matches almost all north american operations include Canada and Mexico. I'm sure as time goes on and development continues, other brake systems will be included.
      Mike
      Proud Supporter of OR
      Creator of YardMaster
      "Thanks for using YardMaster"

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      • seagoon
        5000 Post Veteran

        • Jun 2001
        • 5161
        • Yamba, N.S.WALES, Australia

        #4
        I am only a fairly new user of OR but can say that the coupling and starting-off requirements as detailed by Chris really enthuse me about OR.
        Whether the job of setting and releasing handbrakes is the responsibility of one railroad employee or another is immaterial; the player is the only person sitting in front of his/her computer so the player has to change hats as part of the simulation experience.

        Full marks to the development team for bringing us a little more realism.

        BK
        IBM XT i386; 512Kb RAM; 5.25" FDD; 1.4Mb FDD; 5Mb HDD; VGA 256-colour graphics card; AdLib soundcard; DR DOS 6.0; Windows 3.0

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        • Conrail Tweety
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2007
          • 171
          • Potts Valley Junction, Virginia

          #5
          Can the brake line be charged before releasing the handbrakes?

          Dennis
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          Conrail Tweety

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          • longiron
            1000 Post Veteran and Moderator

            • Jan 2007
            • 1453
            • Just south of NYC

            #6
            Originally posted by Conrail Tweety
            Can the brake line be charged before releasing the handbrakes?

            Dennis
            Yes, charging the train brake line while keeping the handbrakes set is required for few activities on the A&O route. So, it's a test case the OR team. They are totally independent - you can set/release the handbrakes without touching the train brakes.
            Chris
            "True rail fans have two favorite railroads. The B&O and one other."

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            • derekmorton
              5500 Post Veteran



              • Nov 1999
              • 5699
              • Eltham, Victoria, Australia.
              • ORTS

              #7
              >First, once you've coupled to a cut of cars, the train brake air line must be connected.

              That won't be prototypical then;
              If you want to move the cars without air (which we used to do all the time in the yard), we can't.

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              • Coonskin
                3000 Post Veteran

                • Aug 2002
                • 3226
                • Poteau, OK, USA.

                #8
                Derek is correct:

                On the railroad we can "bleed" off the air on a car (i.e. pull/push the "Release Rod" to vent the air reservoir, thus releasing all air-applied brake on that car) and let it free roll for kicking, gravity switching, etc.
                Andre Ming
                V Scale Creations.com R.I.P

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                • mikephfl
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 524
                  • Clearwater, FL

                  #9
                  Originally posted by derekmorton
                  >First, once you've coupled to a cut of cars, the train brake air line must be connected.

                  That won't be prototypical then;
                  If you want to move the cars without air (which we used to do all the time in the yard), we can't.
                  I've managed to drag a few cars without connecting the air. You can't kick them, but you can move them. But if it's more than say 5 or 6, you are stuck. I thought I saw a way to bleed off the air on cars though.
                  Mike
                  Proud Supporter of OR
                  Creator of YardMaster
                  "Thanks for using YardMaster"

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                  • charliechan2006
                    Senior Member

                    • May 2006
                    • 131
                    • Smithfield, Utah, USA.

                    #10
                    Good Morning:

                    How about a tutorial on uncoupling of cars. If I want to uncouple one or two cars from a consist, do I set the hand brakes on the cars I am uncoupling and then uncouple the brake hose. If I do that then after I uncouple a few cars then I have to connect the brake line and release the hand brake from the cars still coupled. Is there a way to set the hand brakes on just one car?

                    Thanks for a great sim.

                    Chandler

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                    • mikephfl
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 524
                      • Clearwater, FL

                      #11
                      Originally posted by charliechan2006
                      Good Morning:

                      How about a tutorial on uncoupling of cars. If I want to uncouple one or two cars from a consist, do I set the hand brakes on the cars I am uncoupling and then uncouple the brake hose. If I do that then after I uncouple a few cars then I have to connect the brake line and release the hand brake from the cars still coupled. Is there a way to set the hand brakes on just one car?

                      Thanks for a great sim.

                      Chandler
                      In North American Railroading, you would set the hand brakes on sufficient number of cars, then uncouple. The air hose/line will let loose automatically as the train pulls away, this sets the brakes on the cut of cars into emergency, unless you've closed the angle cock, which is not usually done although you might if another engine is coupled to the other end to move the cars again or it's in a yard.
                      Mike
                      Proud Supporter of OR
                      Creator of YardMaster
                      "Thanks for using YardMaster"

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                      • seagoon
                        5000 Post Veteran

                        • Jun 2001
                        • 5161
                        • Yamba, N.S.WALES, Australia

                        #12
                        Originally posted by derekmorton
                        If you want to move the cars without air (which we used to do all the time in the yard), we can't.
                        "Unstoppable".

                        BK
                        IBM XT i386; 512Kb RAM; 5.25" FDD; 1.4Mb FDD; 5Mb HDD; VGA 256-colour graphics card; AdLib soundcard; DR DOS 6.0; Windows 3.0

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                        • motormaster532
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 465
                          • New York

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Coonskin
                          Derek is correct:

                          On the railroad we can "bleed" off the air on a car (i.e. pull/push the "Release Rod" to vent the air reservoir, thus releasing all air-applied brake on that car) and let it free roll for kicking, gravity switching, etc.
                          My crew does this all the time switching in the yard. Brian

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                          • motormaster532
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 465
                            • New York

                            #14
                            Originally posted by seagoon
                            I am only a fairly new user of OR but can say that the coupling and starting-off requirements as detailed by Chris really enthuse me about OR.
                            Whether the job of setting and releasing handbrakes is the responsibility of one railroad employee or another is immaterial; the player is the only person sitting in front of his/her computer so the player has to change hats as part of the simulation experience.

                            Full marks to the development team for bringing us a little more realism.

                            BK
                            What is this! What,you want to cut more jobs!!!D

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                            • jkcooney
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 483
                              • Ocala, Florida, USA.

                              #15
                              Just new to OR... long time MSTS 10+ years.... steep learning curve. How do I reset the #3 rear of train view
                              after uncoupling? The view continues to show tender of steam loco or rear of diesel and/or last car still attached
                              to train?

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