Dual monitor support for OR ?

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  • GoGoran
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 880

    #1

    Dual monitor support for OR ?

    Hi guys,

    would it be possible to implement dual monitor support for OR ?

    I'm thinking about a simple solution there, i.e. if you got two old CRT monitors, each of the same resolution, e.g. 1600 x 1200, the OR image would be extended over both monitors, effectively resulting in a game resolution of 3200 x 1200 pixels !

    Or, if you have two modern LCD or LED widescreen monitors, you could e.g. have two monitors, each running at 2560 x 1440 pixels,
    resulting in a game resolution of 5120 x 1440 pixels !

    Not to mention triple or quad monitor scenarios, which could really provide insane resolutions ...

    Yes, I do think this would make a lot of sense, not for a shoot-em-up game, but for a railroad simulation, since the defining characteristic of trains is that they are, well: llllooooooooooooooooooooooooooooonnnggg !!! So an ultrawide dual or triple monitor setup would actually make sense and add to the simulation experience.

    If it's not too complicated or too much work to implement such resolutions in the resolutions menu, then please, dear developpers, go ahead and just do it !

    It's understood that one would need a high-end graphics card, or even SLI or CrossFire setup with two or more cards, to get good framerates with two or more monitors and the corresponding high game resolution, but graphics cards and CPUs are getting more powerful every year, so I would not see that as an obstacle which should bar the implementation of what is possible.

    Besides, it would make OR unique in yet one more regard, since no other railroad sim supports that, afaik.
    Last edited by GoGoran; 12-28-2011, 09:55.
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  • apco25
    1500 Post Veteran
    • Jan 2008
    • 1827
    • Home is the Chicago suburbs

    #2
    I run an Crossfire setup now with 3, 28 inch LCD panels. A simple implimentation would be in the cabview, where the left, center and right views could be displayed at the same time.
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    • twpol
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 434
      • United Kingdom

      #3
      Originally posted by GoGoran
      If it's not too complicated or too much work to implement such resolutions in the resolutions menu, then please, dear developpers, go ahead and just do it !
      You can already set windowed resolutions that span multiple monitors (just type them in, though you might need to use the old menu for some larger values), but properly supporting multiple monitors (e.g. taking into account angle, bevels and the like) and doing fullscreen across multiple monitors is quite a lot of work.
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      Open Rails Management Team
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      • GoGoran
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2010
        • 880

        #4
        Originally posted by twpol
        You can already set windowed resolutions that span multiple monitors (just type them in, though you might need to use the old menu for some larger values),
        Thanks for the hint, I did not know about that. I will try and see whether it works.


        but properly supporting multiple monitors (e.g. taking into account angle, bevels and the like) and doing fullscreen across multiple monitors is quite a lot of work.
        That would be too much work, it's understood - though it would be nice. All I was asking for, however, is the most simple implementation as described above. I will check out what you told me now.
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        • GoGoran
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          • Jun 2010
          • 880

          #5
          I checked it out - it really works great ! But I definitely need a better computer for those screen sizes.

          Unfortunately I barely got the train moving, too, since even at 1% throttle, the wheels kept spinning. And that although AntiSlip ( 1 ) was set. But that's another can of worms entirely.

          Kudos for the variable resolution support - keep it this way !
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          • GoGoran
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            • Jun 2010
            • 880

            #6
            Please remind me - how do you jump from one waggon to another with the cameras 2 and 3 ?
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            • twpol
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 434
              • United Kingdom

              #7
              Alt - Page Up/Down switches between cars.
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              • longiron
                1000 Post Veteran and Moderator

                • Jan 2007
                • 1453
                • Just south of NYC

                #8
                Originally posted by GoGoran
                Unfortunately I barely got the train moving, too, since even at 1% throttle, the wheels kept spinning. And that although AntiSlip ( 1 ) was set. But that's another can of worms entirely.
                In v0.7 there are two new keyboard commands designed to address the runaway slipping due to instability of the adhesion calculations on systems with lower frame rates (under 40 FPS).
                • Pressing a combination of "Ctrl + X" will reset the adhesion calculations, stop wheelslip and reset the Throttle to "0%" for all Engines in the consist
                • Pressing Ctrl+Alt+X toggles UseAdvancedAdhesion parameter which switches all locomotives between Open Rails new advanced adhesion model and a simpler model.
                Chris
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                • GoGoran
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                  • Jun 2010
                  • 880

                  #9
                  Thank you two, longiron and twpol !
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                  • nicober
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                    • May 2010
                    • 39
                    • Quebec - Canada

                    #10
                    I every boby
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                    Look at this video for a three monitors display
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                    Impressive!

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                    • GoGoran
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 880

                      #11
                      Originally posted by nicober
                      I every boby Look at this video for a three monitors display
                      Impressive!
                      Yeah, except for the cabview, which is stretched beyond belief.

                      And that dude cannot handle his cameras - the best thing of a wide screen is that you can look at your train, or at least the loco and the first waggons, from the side with cameras 3 and 4 by moving the cam thru the consist.
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                      • longiron
                        1000 Post Veteran and Moderator

                        • Jan 2007
                        • 1453
                        • Just south of NYC

                        #12
                        Originally posted by GoGoran
                        Yeah, except for the cabview, which is stretched beyond belief.
                        It's going to take specially build cabview files for such a wide aspect ratio. Open Rails is just using the graphics and stretching it to fit the screen resolution.
                        BTW, OR is capable of supporting much different resolutions from MSTS as demonstrated here
                        Chris
                        "True rail fans have two favorite railroads. The B&O and one other."

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                        • OTTODAD
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                          • Feb 2001
                          • 32344
                          • England
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                          #13
                          I think what I and others mean when talking about multi-monitors support in simulators is being able to show different views in them.

                          Like the main view in one and a map, or outside views in others, like can be done in MSFS-X, rather than having to compose a cab-view which contains smaller windows to display them as shown below.

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                          • longiron
                            1000 Post Veteran and Moderator

                            • Jan 2007
                            • 1453
                            • Just south of NYC

                            #14
                            Agreed. There are two different "wants" here. Multiple monitors displaying different views and multiple monitors displaying a single widescreen view
                            Chris
                            "True rail fans have two favorite railroads. The B&O and one other."

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                            • csantucci
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                              • Nov 1999
                              • 856
                              • Torino, Italy.

                              #15
                              Originally posted by longiron
                              Agreed. There are two different "wants" here.
                              Here only "wishes" to the OR team have right of existence. No "wants"
                              By the way I personally am more interested in different views. For example one monitor with the player train, another with a train dispatcher screen layout.

                              Carlo
                              Last edited by csantucci; 01-08-2012, 14:04.
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