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  • captain82
    Senior Member

    • Jan 2008
    • 1000
    • Northern Virginia
    • ORTS

    #1

    brake release issues

    Good afternoon all,

    having trouble with the breaks on v0.7. seems that well , the train breaks will not release. seem that the service pressure starts off at 82%, sure it can increase to the emergeny breaking but once there and after reseting the pressure it remains at 100%. included is the log

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    Cory Duguid
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  • sniper297
    9500 Post Veteran
    • Nov 1999
    • 9545
    • Union Grove, Wisconsin, USA.
    • General

    #2
    Starting with OpenRails.exe try this;

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    Select the options simulation tab, see if graduated release air brakes is checked on - if it is, uncheck it and see if it works better.
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    • OTTODAD
      1
      • Feb 2001
      • 32344
      • England
      • General

      #3
      I have set mine like below, suggested in an older thread, getting tired of having to wait for train brakes to release !

      O t t o

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      • captain82
        Senior Member

        • Jan 2008
        • 1000
        • Northern Virginia
        • ORTS

        #4
        no dice! not sure what to do at this point. tried a separate keyboard and my raildriver. Guess im SOL!
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        • longiron
          1000 Post Veteran and Moderator

          • Jan 2007
          • 1453
          • Just south of NYC

          #5
          Does this engine have a combined controller? What route and equipment has this problem? I have to ask because you didn't attach the OR log file.
          Chris
          "True rail fans have two favorite railroads. The B&O and one other."

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          • OTTODAD
            1
            • Feb 2001
            • 32344
            • England
            • General

            #6
            Originally posted by captain82
            no dice! not sure what to do at this point. tried a separate keyboard and my raildriver. Guess im SOL!
            Try these latest brakes keys below.

            The
            RED numbers keys refer to the Num-Pad with Num Lock OFF !!!

            If you right-click on one of the pictures you can SELECT PRINT PICTURE on your A4 printer.

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            • lindsayts
              Senior Member
              • May 2010
              • 194

              #7
              I am still testing on this but it APPEARS this version of OR has changed the way it works with the locos compressor power the Main res volumne and the volume of the res in the trailing vehicles. i had one consist (consist worked OK in V0.62) I could not release the brakes on, checking the engfiles out the main res volume was to small compared to the wagons AuxilaryResCapacity (Note 1) and therefore could not raise the brake line pressure quick enough.

              This was cured by increaseing the loco's AirBrakesMainResVloume, AirBRakesAirCompessorWattage and just in case the AirBrakesAirCompresorPowerRating. Had no trouble after that. I have found though in the past OR has exposed some major limitations in some of the ENG and WAG files so the problem could easily not be OR's fault. It may be doing the correct thing and being mucked up by poor parameters, again :-(.

              Note 1: In this case all vehicles had the value ( 2 ) for the ResVolumne's this in real life puts the locos MainRes at a tenth of the Volume of the Wagons ResVolume's (loco was hauling a ten car train) and this in real life is "never going to fly".

              Lindsay

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              • captain82
                Senior Member

                • Jan 2008
                • 1000
                • Northern Virginia
                • ORTS

                #8
                alright, got the brakes to release fully with the raildriver but now no movement. I do have throttle control but its like im sitting in neutral, the engine doesn't even rev up
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                • sniper297
                  9500 Post Veteran
                  • Nov 1999
                  • 9545
                  • Union Grove, Wisconsin, USA.
                  • General

                  #9
                  Still leaving out the interesting part - which loco? Or does it have the same symptoms in any loco including default GP38?
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                  • captain82
                    Senior Member

                    • Jan 2008
                    • 1000
                    • Northern Virginia
                    • ORTS

                    #10
                    Originally posted by sniper297
                    Still leaving out the interesting part - which loco? Or does it have the same symptoms in any loco including default GP38?
                    all equipment. brakes released but the guages still indicate pressure. I think Ive had about enough of this for one night
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                    • sniper297
                      9500 Post Veteran
                      • Nov 1999
                      • 9545
                      • Union Grove, Wisconsin, USA.
                      • General

                      #11
                      Aye aye, Captain!

                      Well, tomorrow what you could try;

                      Go to C:\Program Files\PI Engineering\RailDriver\ (or wherever you have it installed) and run RDcalibration.exe - make sure you don't blow past the last instruction, set all the controls to the default position before clicking next to close the calibration utility.

                      Then go to C:\Program Files\PI Engineering\RailDriver\controller\ and copy the ModernCalibration.rdm and ModernController.rdm files. Change to C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\ (or whatever path you have) and paste those two files in the root of train simulator.

                      I just now tried deleting those two files from train simulator and got an error message from the open rails loader, then very similar symptoms to what you're describing - full auto brake release, but the independent brake was hunting between 7% and 12%, throttle hunted between 0% and 13% and the train wouldn't move. Copying those two files back in and restarting open rails fixed it, works perfectly after that.
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                      • captain82
                        Senior Member

                        • Jan 2008
                        • 1000
                        • Northern Virginia
                        • ORTS

                        #12
                        Any tutorials on how to get this working??? Still having my brake release issues
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                        • captain82
                          Senior Member

                          • Jan 2008
                          • 1000
                          • Northern Virginia
                          • ORTS

                          #13
                          Yes I did, right in the Train Simulator folder. No change unless theres a specific folder its suppoed to go into. Dont really want to mess with the ENG files since I wouldn't have a clue as to what I'm doing and mess things up even more.
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                          • sniper297
                            9500 Post Veteran
                            • Nov 1999
                            • 9545
                            • Union Grove, Wisconsin, USA.
                            • General

                            #14
                            Alright, I put on my moderator's hat for a minute to move your last two posts in here so we don't get the two gripes mixed up, now let me put my AX troubleshooter's hat back on. What I want you to try next;



                            Select the default Marias Pass, default GP38, default 2X GP38 35 mixed consist in explore mode.



                            Don't start the raildriver, just press and hold down the ; key on the keyboard (just to the right of the L key), see if you get these numbers.



                            Then hit the W key and see if the Direction changes to Forward, hit the D key twice and see if the throttle changes to 25%.
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