Enough of this....

[longiron]

James are you suggesting something is wrong with the system BIOS?

What James is saying there's something fundamentally screwed up with your Microsoft software installation, or your system bios, or graphic card driver that Open Rails currently needs to run. Just a stab, what .NET version and update level is on your system?

Longiron it is not MSTS with a problem. OR will not run but MSTS runs perfectly fine.

I know I was responding to postings that EVERYONE should install MSTS in some other location than Programs (86) if running vista or win7

[twpol]

What James is saying there's something fundamentally screwed up with your Microsoft software installation, or your system bios, or graphic card driver that Open Rails currently needs to run. Just a stab, what .NET version and update level is on your system?

Microsoft software is by far the least likely to be the problem here - it's other software that's in the dock.

[MP36PH3S]

Tried the default Tokyo-Hakone route with the default Series 2000 (this is the newest version of OR):

Open Rails is starting...
Version = 0.7.0.905
Build = 0.0.4362.22137 11/12/2011 12:17
Logfile = C:\Users\JLiu.DCDS\Desktop\OpenRailsLog.txt
------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- --------
Alerter = False
BrakePipeChargingRate = (registry) 150
DataLogger = False
DynamicShadows = (registry) True
FullScreen = (registry) True
GraduatedRelease = (registry) True
Logging = True
LoggingFilename = OpenRailsLog.txt
LoggingPath = C:\Users\JLiu.DCDS\Desktop
MSTSBINSound = (registry) True
Precipitation = (registry) True
Profiling = False
ProfilingFrameCount = 1000
ScreenshotPath = C:\Users\JLiu.DCDS\Pictures\Open Rails
ShaderModel = 0
ShadowAllShapes = False
ShadowMapBlur = True
ShadowMapCount = 4
ShadowMapDistance = 0
ShadowMapResolution = 1024
ShowErrorDialogs = True
SoundDetailLevel = 5
TrainLights = (registry) True
UseAdvancedAdhesion = True
VerticalSync = False
ViewingDistance = 2000
ViewingFOV = 45
WindowGlass = (registry) True
WindowPosition_Activity = 50, 50
WindowPosition_Compass = (registry) 50, 0
WindowPosition_DriverAid = (registry) 100, 100
WindowPosition_Help = (registry) 50, 50
WindowPosition_NextStation = (registry) 0, 100
WindowPosition_Switch = (registry) 0, 50
WindowPosition_TrackMonitor = (registry) 100, 0
WindowPosition_TrainOperations = (registry) 50, 50
WindowSize = (registry) 1920x1200
Wire = (registry) True
WorldObjectDensity = 10
------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- --------
Mode = Explore
Path = C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\ROUTES\JAPAN1\PATHS\stmdam.pat
Consist = C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\TRAINS\CONSISTS\2000std.con
Time = 12:0
Season = 0
Weather = 0
------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- --------
Loading TRK TDB SIGCFG DAT ACT RDB CARSPAWN
Information: OpenAL using device DirectSound
ENV SIGCFG TTYPE
Error: System.BadImageFormatException: The file or directory is corrupted and unreadable. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x80070570)
at System.Runtime.InteropServices.Marshal.ThrowExcept ionForHRInternal(Int32 errorCode, IntPtr errorInfo)
at System.Management.ManagementScope.InitializeGuts(O bject o)
at System.Management.ManagementScope.Initialize()
at System.Management.ManagementObject.Initialize(Bool ean getObject)
at System.Management.ManagementClass.GetInstances(Enu merationOptions options)
at System.Management.ManagementClass.GetInstances()
at ORTS.Viewer3D.UpdateAdapterInformation(GraphicsAda pter graphicsAdapter)
at ORTS.Viewer3D.GDM_PreparingDeviceSettings(Object sender, PreparingDeviceSettingsEventArgs e)
at Microsoft.Xna.Framework.GraphicsDeviceManager.OnPr eparingDeviceSettings(Object sender, PreparingDeviceSettingsEventArgs args)
at Microsoft.Xna.Framework.GraphicsDeviceManager.Crea teDevice(GraphicsDeviceInformation newInfo)
at Microsoft.Xna.Framework.GraphicsDeviceManager.Chan geDevice(Boolean forceCreate)
at Microsoft.Xna.Framework.GraphicsDeviceManager.Micr osoft.Xna.Framework.IGraphicsDeviceManager.CreateD evice()
at Microsoft.Xna.Framework.Game.Run()
at ORTS.Viewer3D.Run()
at ORTS.Program.<>c__DisplayClass8.<Start>b__7()
at ORTS.Program.Start(UserSettings settings, String[] args)
at ORTS.ORTraceListener.TraceEventInternal(TraceEvent Cache eventCache, String source, TraceEventType eventType, Int32 id, String format, Object[] args)
at ORTS.ORTraceListener.TraceEvent(TraceEventCache eventCache, String source, TraceEventType eventType, Int32 id, String format, Object[] args)
at System.Diagnostics.TraceInternal.TraceEvent(TraceE ventType eventType, Int32 id, String format, Object[] args)
at System.Diagnostics.Trace.TraceError(String format, Object[] args)
at ORTS.ORTraceListener.WriteLine(Object o)
at System.Diagnostics.TraceInternal.WriteLine(Object value)
at System.Diagnostics.Trace.WriteLine(Object value)
at ORTS.Program.Start(UserSettings settings, String[] args)
at ORTS.Program.Main(String[] args)

[muskokaandtahoe]

If you are willing to poke around a bit more in the innards, google "Process Monitor" + Sysinternals. It should be on a microsoft page. Download and install. There is a tutorial here: http://www.elvastower.com/forums/ind...g-msts-aborts/

Set it up so it monitors runactivity.exe (instead of train.exe) and start it.

Then run Open rails again, exactly as you did before. When the game itself becomes visible (not the intro windows), just pause it or kill it and return to the Process Monitor window. Search for "Metra_401". You will probably find several entries... what's going on for the cab view? It might give some clue to what's wrong in the environment.

[sniper297]

"WindowSize = (registry) 1920x1200"

Try running in something like 1024x768, see if that works. Dave, if he gets the same symptoms with the default series 2000, I don't think the Metra cabview is the problem.

[muskokaandtahoe]

"WindowSize = (registry) 1920x1200"

Dave, if he gets the same symptoms with the default series 2000, I don't think the Metra cabview is the problem.

I don't think the problem is the cabview... I think the cabview just happens to be in-hand when the problem occurs. If he can find the last cabview reference in the Process Monitor* output he might also find something else that explains (or hints at) what is really going on.

* What process monitor shows is all of the system calls, a lot of which are to the registry. It's a bit different what the OR stack listing.

[twpol]

The error message is unrelated to any content being loaded. It doesn't matter what consists or routes are loaded, the error is independent of them.

[MP36PH3S]

I have had the same lines pop up every time I ran a MP36 in OR even when it still worked.
Sniper followed your suggestion.
Open Rails is starting...
Version = 0.7.0.905
Build = 0.0.4362.22137 11/12/2011 12:17
Logfile = C:\Users\JLiu.DCDS\Desktop\OpenRailsLog.txt
------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- --------
Alerter = False
BrakePipeChargingRate = (registry) 150
DataLogger = False
DynamicShadows = (registry) True
FullScreen = (registry) True
GraduatedRelease = (registry) True
Logging = True
LoggingFilename = OpenRailsLog.txt
LoggingPath = C:\Users\JLiu.DCDS\Desktop
MSTSBINSound = (registry) True
Precipitation = (registry) True
Profiling = False
ProfilingFrameCount = 1000
ScreenshotPath = C:\Users\JLiu.DCDS\Pictures\Open Rails
ShaderModel = 0
ShadowAllShapes = False
ShadowMapBlur = True
ShadowMapCount = 4
ShadowMapDistance = 0
ShadowMapResolution = 1024
ShowErrorDialogs = True
SoundDetailLevel = 5
TrainLights = (registry) True
UseAdvancedAdhesion = True
VerticalSync = False
ViewingDistance = 2000
ViewingFOV = 45
WindowGlass = (registry) True
WindowPosition_Activity = 50, 50
WindowPosition_Compass = (registry) 50, 0
WindowPosition_DriverAid = (registry) 100, 100
WindowPosition_Help = (registry) 50, 50
WindowPosition_NextStation = (registry) 0, 100
WindowPosition_Switch = (registry) 0, 50
WindowPosition_TrackMonitor = (registry) 100, 0
WindowPosition_TrainOperations = (registry) 50, 50
WindowSize = 1024x768
Wire = (registry) True
WorldObjectDensity = 10
------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- --------
Mode = Explore
Path = C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\ROUTES\JAPAN1\PATHS\stmdam.pat
Consist = C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\TRAINS\CONSISTS\series7000.con
Time = 12:0
Season = 0
Weather = 0
------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- --------
Loading TRK TDB SIGCFG DAT ACT RDB CARSPAWN
Warning: Unknown ControlStyle PRESSED in C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\trains\trainset\Series7000\CABVIEW\s7000 .cvf:line 37
Warning: Unknown ControlStyle PRESSED in C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\trains\trainset\Series7000\CABVIEW\s7000 .cvf:line 37
Information: OpenAL using device DirectSound
ENV SIGCFG TTYPE
Error: System.BadImageFormatException: The file or directory is corrupted and unreadable. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x80070570)
at System.Runtime.InteropServices.Marshal.ThrowExcept ionForHRInternal(Int32 errorCode, IntPtr errorInfo)
at System.Management.ManagementScope.InitializeGuts(O bject o)
at System.Management.ManagementScope.Initialize()
at System.Management.ManagementObject.Initialize(Bool ean getObject)
at System.Management.ManagementClass.GetInstances(Enu merationOptions options)
at System.Management.ManagementClass.GetInstances()
at ORTS.Viewer3D.UpdateAdapterInformation(GraphicsAda pter graphicsAdapter)
at ORTS.Viewer3D.GDM_PreparingDeviceSettings(Object sender, PreparingDeviceSettingsEventArgs e)
at Microsoft.Xna.Framework.GraphicsDeviceManager.OnPr eparingDeviceSettings(Object sender, PreparingDeviceSettingsEventArgs args)
at Microsoft.Xna.Framework.GraphicsDeviceManager.Crea teDevice(GraphicsDeviceInformation newInfo)
at Microsoft.Xna.Framework.GraphicsDeviceManager.Chan geDevice(Boolean forceCreate)
at Microsoft.Xna.Framework.GraphicsDeviceManager.Micr osoft.Xna.Framework.IGraphicsDeviceManager.CreateD evice()
at Microsoft.Xna.Framework.Game.Run()
at ORTS.Viewer3D.Run()
at ORTS.Program.<>c__DisplayClass8.<Start>b__7()
at ORTS.Program.Start(UserSettings settings, String[] args)
at ORTS.ORTraceListener.TraceEventInternal(TraceEvent Cache eventCache, String source, TraceEventType eventType, Int32 id, String format, Object[] args)
at ORTS.ORTraceListener.TraceEvent(TraceEventCache eventCache, String source, TraceEventType eventType, Int32 id, String format, Object[] args)
at System.Diagnostics.TraceInternal.TraceEvent(TraceE ventType eventType, Int32 id, String format, Object[] args)
at System.Diagnostics.Trace.TraceError(String format, Object[] args)
at ORTS.ORTraceListener.WriteLine(Object o)
at System.Diagnostics.TraceInternal.WriteLine(Object value)
at System.Diagnostics.Trace.WriteLine(Object value)
at ORTS.Program.Start(UserSettings settings, String[] args)
at ORTS.Program.Main(String[] args)

[OTTODAD]

This appears to use the Japanese Series 7000 trainset which is causing this UNKNOWN error in the Windows style menu of ORTS but not in the original smaller verrsion, my SANTA-FE-EXPLORER also uses.

O t t o

[longiron]

I have had the same lines pop up every time I ran a MP36 in OR even when it still worked.

Error: System.BadImageFormatException: The file or directory is corrupted and unreadable. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x80070570)
at System.Runtime.InteropServices.Marshal.ThrowExcept ionForHRInternal(Int32 errorCode, IntPtr errorInfo)
at System.Management.ManagementScope.InitializeGuts(O bject o)
at System.Management.ManagementScope.Initialize()
at System.Management.ManagementObject.Initialize(Bool ean getObject)
at System.Management.ManagementClass.GetInstances(Enu merationOptions options)
at System.Management.ManagementClass.GetInstances()
at ORTS.Viewer3D.UpdateAdapterInformation(GraphicsAda pter graphicsAdapter)
at ORTS.Viewer3D.GDM_PreparingDeviceSettings(Object sender, PreparingDeviceSettingsEventArgs e)
at Microsoft.Xna.Framework.GraphicsDeviceManager.OnPr eparingDeviceSettings(Object sender, PreparingDeviceSettingsEventArgs args)
at Microsoft.Xna.Framework.GraphicsDeviceManager.Crea teDevice(GraphicsDeviceInformation newInfo)
at Microsoft.Xna.Framework.GraphicsDeviceManager.Chan geDevice(Boolean forceCreate)
at Microsoft.Xna.Framework.GraphicsDeviceManager.Micr osoft.Xna.Framework.IGraphicsDeviceManager.CreateD evice()

Let me try to explain in simple terms what James has already said. It appears that when OR tries to retrieve information it needs about your video card (your graphics adapter!!), something/somewhere - probably 3rd party software - is not allowing what should be basic request & retrieve of system level information. As to what's the root cause? It could be a lot of things.

[sniper297]

Well, I can duplicate that with the default 7000;



Same error message, but it loads and runs fine anyway.



I think we've ruled out everything except the mystery error;

Error: System.BadImageFormatException: The file or directory is corrupted and unreadable.

I'm not seeing that one anywhere, and "The" file or directory, WHICH file or directory is corrupted and unreadable? Figure that out and we can start troubleshooting a specific file or folder.

[sniper297]

You try what I suggested in the other thread?

https://www.trainsim.com/vbts/showthread.php?305508-brake-release-issues&p=1721123#post1721123

At MP36, quick scan over this thread I don't see system specs anyplace.

Model: Dell DXP051
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.40GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 2046MB RAM
Operating System: Windows XP Media Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3
DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)

Video: NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT 512.0 MB
NVIDIA Driver Version: 6.14.0012.8538

Sound: SigmaTel Audio
sthda.sys Driver Version: 5.10.4823.0000

Hard Drive: Western Digital WD5000AAKX-001CA0 462.0 GB

* McAfee Anti-virus
* McAfee Personal Firewall

That's what I got, just now ran a few tests with the Nvidia control panel forcing FSAA or Vsynch on or off, clamping negative LOD bias, changing the number of prerendered frames, in general trying to screw up the settings as badly as possible and Open Rails launches whatever I do. Post your system specs, particularly video card and driver version, maybe we can figure out something from there. At Chris and James, uninstall and reinstall of XNA do any good here?

[muskokaandtahoe]

------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- ------------ ---------- --------
Loading TRK TDB SIGCFG DAT ACT RDB CARSPAWN
Warning: Unknown ControlStyle PRESSED in C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\trains\trainset\Series7000\CABVIEW\s7000 .cvf:line 37
Warning: Unknown ControlStyle PRESSED in C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\trains\trainset\Series7000\CABVIEW\s7000 .cvf:line 37

That is completely unrelated to what follows. It's saying OR doesn't yet know how to handle the cab control type of "Pressed". We know about that.



This stuff (what you see below) is a completely different issue. It is something that's being thrown by the system back at OR. It's not OR code that's failing (tho there may be something in OR that contributes).

Information: OpenAL using device DirectSound
ENV SIGCFG TTYPE
Error: System.BadImageFormatException: The file or directory is corrupted and unreadable. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x80070570)
at System.Runtime.InteropServices.Marshal.ThrowExcept ionForHRInternal(Int32 errorCode, IntPtr errorInfo)
at System.Management.ManagementScope.InitializeGuts(O bject o)
at System.Management.ManagementScope.Initialize()
at System.Management.ManagementObject.Initialize(Bool ean getObject)
at System.Management.ManagementClass.GetInstances(Enu merationOptions options)
at System.Management.ManagementClass.GetInstances()

[sniper297]

Well, hold the phone a minute while I move the Captain's posts (SIR!) so we don't get the two gripes confused. This one he (MP36) is saying it won't run at all, since the error looks like it's related to the video card, XNA, or the video card driver we need to know his system specs, driver version, and what DXDIAG is saying about his DirectX files.

[derekmorton]

I haven't yet experienced the wonders and joy of Windows 7 / Vista UAC myself yet, but from what I've been reading;
Path = C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\
Most gamers using vista / win7 agree you should never ever ever install any modifiable game in the \Program Files (x86) folder or you'll constantly be fighting a losing battle with UAC trying to protect that folder from the user.

Hi Jim,

The problem is not with UAC.
Program files only has write permissions for the user "trustedInstaller" which is the user account used by installers.

If you want to fix the issue, you need to go through the ownership dance.

Or better still, use another directory or drive.


Cheers