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  • derekmorton
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    • Nov 1999
    • 5699
    • Eltham, Victoria, Australia.
    • ORTS

    #16
    Can you run these activities with MSTS?

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    • Komachi
      1500 Post Veteran
      • Oct 2006
      • 1707
      • Lancaster, Pennsylvania

      #17
      Originally posted by derekmorton
      Can you run these activities with MSTS?
      Some of them, no, as I am missing .con's and stock for em, but others? Yes. Ones with the Piedmont COrridor I can, Seaview, some of the routes that make up the Super Chief's route on the FL, Surfliner..

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      • longiron
        1000 Post Veteran and Moderator

        • Jan 2007
        • 1453
        • Just south of NYC

        #18
        Originally posted by Komachi
        Some of them, no, as I am missing .con's and stock for em, but others?
        Missing or non-existent .con files will prevent Open Rails (using the WPF menu) from discovering the .eng file. The way OR finds which .eng files to list starts with parsing the consist files in your MSTS consist folder. Even if all the files (.eng, ace, etc) are in the correct folder in your Trainset folder, the WPF menu will not discover and list them as available.

        Here are the discovery steps:
        1) OpenRails FIRST reads all consist files
        2) For each consist file if it contains an engine, then the engine is recovered as the "engine name" and "the folder name" (like in the CON file)

        Using Trainstore will "hide" all consist files in its Trainstore folder that aren't being used by the "unstored" routes. Therefore, only active .eng being used in activities are visible as options for Explore.
        Chris
        "True rail fans have two favorite railroads. The B&O and one other."

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        • Komachi
          1500 Post Veteran
          • Oct 2006
          • 1707
          • Lancaster, Pennsylvania

          #19
          Originally posted by longiron
          Missing or non-existent .con files will prevent Open Rails (using the WPF menu) from discovering the .eng file. The way OR finds which .eng files to list starts with parsing the consist files in your MSTS consist folder. Even if all the files (.eng, ace, etc) are in the correct folder in your Trainset folder, the WPF menu will not discover and list them as available.

          Here are the discovery steps:
          1) OpenRails FIRST reads all consist files
          2) For each consist file if it contains an engine, then the engine is recovered as the "engine name" and "the folder name" (like in the CON file)

          Using Trainstore will "hide" all consist files in its Trainstore folder that aren't being used by the "unstored" routes. Therefore, only active .eng being used in activities are visible as options for Explore.
          So, basically... One wrong/nonexistant file, and OR Will just crap out and not list anything?

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          • longiron
            1000 Post Veteran and Moderator

            • Jan 2007
            • 1453
            • Just south of NYC

            #20
            Originally posted by Komachi
            So, basically... One wrong/nonexistant file, and OR Will just crap out and not list anything?
            No, it just won't list the engines for the missing consist file. OR will list engines in consist files that do exist.
            Chris
            "True rail fans have two favorite railroads. The B&O and one other."

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            • Komachi
              1500 Post Veteran
              • Oct 2006
              • 1707
              • Lancaster, Pennsylvania

              #21
              Well that leads me back to square one then...

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              • ED_4
                New Member
                • Nov 2005
                • 6
                • San Diego, California, USA.

                #22
                Why don't you just make a new consist with an engine that you know works. Check to make sure the consist is actually there in the Consist folder. Then open OR to see if it does list it.

                I also noticed that OR don't always put in engines the way they are supposed to be assembled. Like PRR Centipede diesel-electric looks funny in OR. It's ok in MSTS, but in OR the engine looks funny since the engine is put together in separate engine parts. The way OR put it together is not as it should be. At least that's one thing that just still needs some more tweaking with OR for now.
                Last edited by ED_4; 12-15-2011, 18:29.
                Edwin
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                • longiron
                  1000 Post Veteran and Moderator

                  • Jan 2007
                  • 1453
                  • Just south of NYC

                  #23
                  Originally posted by ED_4
                  I also noticed that OR don't always put in engines the way they are supposed to be assembled. Like PRR Centipede diesel-electric looks funny in OR.
                  If the community is silent on these kind of issues, OR cannot be improved. Where can the PRR Centipede be downloaded for testing?
                  Chris
                  "True rail fans have two favorite railroads. The B&O and one other."

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                  • ED_4
                    New Member
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 6
                    • San Diego, California, USA.

                    #24
                    Originally posted by longiron
                    If the community is silent on these kind of issues, OR cannot be improved. Where can the PRR Centipede be downloaded for testing?


                    That was the model that was made by Frank Musick. I'm not sure if it's in the file library here, I didn't see it there when I searched. He used to have a special website with his stuff. I am not sure now if there's any file library out there that has his Centipede now. I thought I saw it last in Elvas Tower, but now I don't see any of his stuff there.

                    I'll test his stuff later on. I thought it was ok before. But when I tested that Erie Berkshire of Allen's, I thought I saw a wierd static consist of the Centipede looking odd.
                    Last edited by ED_4; 12-15-2011, 20:47.
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                    • TBlake
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 266
                      • Western Pacific - 2nd Sub

                      #25
                      Originally posted by longiron
                      If the community is silent on these kind of issues, OR cannot be improved. Where can the PRR Centipede be downloaded for testing?
                      Here is where the baldwin\UP version is: http://home.comcast.net/~kelticsylk/...ds/BLW/BLW.htm

                      Other MSTS stuff is here: http://home.comcast.net/~kelticsylk/...y_railroad.htm

                      Home site: http://home.comcast.net/~kelticsylk/

                      TBlake
                      'Tony'

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                      • Komachi
                        1500 Post Veteran
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 1707
                        • Lancaster, Pennsylvania

                        #26
                        Originally posted by ED_4
                        Why don't you just make a new consist with an engine that you know works. Check to make sure the consist is actually there in the Consist folder. Then open OR to see if it does list it.

                        I also noticed that OR don't always put in engines the way they are supposed to be assembled. Like PRR Centipede diesel-electric looks funny in OR. It's ok in MSTS, but in OR the engine looks funny since the engine is put together in separate engine parts. The way OR put it together is not as it should be. At least that's one thing that just still needs some more tweaking with OR for now.
                        Ed, I've got about a thousand consists with engines I know work, both freeware and payware.

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                        • ED_4
                          New Member
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 6
                          • San Diego, California, USA.

                          #27
                          Originally posted by TBlake
                          Thanks for those links, Tony.

                          I thought his site was down a while back. I guess it just got transferred.

                          To Chris "longiron":

                          The number plate on the engine that I was having trouble with is PRR #5827 on that list from the links Tony put up above. I'll be posting some screens of the situation on what I'm seeing a little later.
                          Edwin
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