OR Won't load my consists

[Komachi]

Ok, so I got a new HDD, copied my MSTS stuff over, installed MSTS on my 2ndary hard-drive ( D: ), and OR seems to read it, cause it has the routes, but... It won't show up the consists for explore mode. Even if I have everything needed for an activity, it shows 'UNKNOWN'... What is the matter?


Edit: NOW it's telling me I need the XNA framework :/ Well, lemme try installing it and seeing if it fixes the problem... Funny thing is, to point out, it didn't give me that message till I clicked 'OpenRails.exe', not 'Menu.exe'.


Edit 2: Nope, didn't fix it...

[twpol]

Ok, so I got a new HDD, copied my MSTS stuff over, installed MSTS on my 2ndary hard-drive ( D: ), and OR seems to read it, cause it has the routes, but... It won't show up the consists for explore mode. Even if I have everything needed for an activity, it shows 'UNKNOWN'... What is the matter?

Switch Menu Style to the smaller menu and try from there, it seems more reliable at the consists.

Edit: NOW it's telling me I need the XNA framework :/ Well, lemme try installing it and seeing if it fixes the problem... Funny thing is, to point out, it didn't give me that message till I clicked 'OpenRails.exe', not 'Menu.exe'.

You should always run OpenRails.exe, anything else is just wrong. Where does it say otherwise?

[Komachi]

Switch Menu Style to the smaller menu and try from there, it seems more reliable at the consists.



You should always run OpenRails.exe, anything else is just wrong. Where does it say otherwise?

Ok while the smaller menu shows consists, I have no idea what consist applies to what locomotive. I really prefer the other menu style, where it's like MSTS And you select what locomotive. As it stands right now, I have to use Train store then OR, to get any locomotives to show,but consists STILL do not show.



Honestly OR is a good concept, but I am very disappointed with it and do not have anything good to say about it any longer, and would like to say I do not think it is ANYWHERE close to being an acceptable public release.

[apco25]

Why are you using trainstore with OR? I certainly don't. I fact I haven't run MSTS itself in months now. Check your permissions in case when you moved your trainset folder to the new HDD, Windows isn't blocking the files.

I'd bet the problems you are experiencing are on YOUR end and not the fault of OR. OR is rapidly moving along and in my opinion very close to replacing MSTS for good.

[OTTODAD]

Make sure that everything stored in Trainstore has been unstored and your Microsoft Games\Train Simulator\Trains\Consists folder is full with Consists files and has a full Trainset folder and then run ORTS, having selected this Microsoft Games\Train Simulator folder as the source of all the routes there are in it to be used by ORTS.

There is a problem with this UNKNOWN showing I have reported a number of times and nobody has been able to explain yet what causes it.

O t t o

[Komachi]

Train Store has everything unstored, and that is when it shows nothing for consist OR locomotives. If I use train store, it shows the loco, but STILL no consist. I have it pointed to the correct folder, and apco, it isn't a permissions issue. I'm running everything as administrator, and am using Windows XP not 7. I refuse to use 7/vista cause of all the MSTS issues it causes.

[Old_Codger]

Sounds like you may have overlooked this area right under the download buttons for Open Rails.

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[Komachi]

Sounds like you may have overlooked this area right under the download buttons for Open Rails.

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What pre-tell have I overlooked? I downloaded the ready to run version(Black one), I have XP 32bit SP3, I BEYOND qualify for the Hardware specs with a dual core 2.80GHz processor, 4GB RAM 2.79GHz, DX9, and a video card of a ATI Radeon HD4860.

I DEFINITELY have the .net framework, otherwise the installer for this, and several other programs wouldn't even work.

[Old_Codger]

The only reason I mentioned that is because in your first post you said that it was telling you that you needed to install XNA, which kind of hinted to me that you might have overlooked that in the software requirements section, and you might have possibly overlooked something else in that section.

Please excuse me for trying to help. You can rest assured that will not happen again.

[Komachi]

The only reason I mentioned that is because in your first post you said that it was telling you that you needed to install XNA, which kind of hinted to me that you might have overlooked that in the software requirements section, and you might have possibly overlooked something else in that section.

Please excuse me for trying to help. You can rest assured that will not happen again.

Oh geez did I come off as a @$$hole? Wasn't trying to be!

[longiron]

Ok while the smaller menu shows consists, I have no idea what consist applies to what locomotive. I really prefer the other menu style, where it's like MSTS And you select what locomotive. As it stands right now, I have to use Train store then OR, to get any locomotives to show,but consists STILL do not show.

Sorry that the WPF Menu (what the OR team calls it) is causing you problems. You have run into a know issue with Explore routes and Engine list display. The software is working as programmed as explained in this post. https://www.trainsim.com/vbts/showth...45#post1670045

Unfortunately, the OR team member who programmed this area has been unable to volunteer his free time recently as he needed to attend to the real world. He's going to have some free time over the next month to tackle this area and update the WPF menu system to include additions/option made over the past few months.

Hope you understand.

[Komachi]

Sorry that the WPF Menu (what the OR team calls it) is causing you problems. You have run into a know issue with Explore routes and Engine list display. The software is working as programmed as explained in this post. https://www.trainsim.com/vbts/showth...45#post1670045

Unfortunately, the OR team member who programmed this area has been unable to volunteer his free time recently as he needed to attend to the real world. He's going to have some free time over the next month to tackle this area and update the WPF menu system to include additions/option made over the past few months.

Hope you understand.

Oh, ok.. Well, I guess I understand.. I'll check back with OR later on I suppose and keep settling for regular MSTS or somethin', or utilize Trainstore somehow.

[ED_4]

I use Trainstore and also have used OR. And all works fine with me. Sounds to me that it's all on your using the tools correctly. As I don't seem to have any problems with using OR even while using Trainstore.

You may want to try running a regular activity versus a free open explore activity. At least that way the trains will be set up all open to run just on that activity. But make sure your Trainstore for that activity is all activated.

Then use OR and then open the same activity.

[derekmorton]

Train Store has everything unstored, and that is when it shows nothing for consist OR locomotives. If I use train store, it shows the loco, but STILL no consist. I have it pointed to the correct folder, and apco, it isn't a permissions issue. I'm running everything as administrator, and am using Windows XP not 7. I refuse to use 7/vista cause of all the MSTS issues it causes.

7/vista only have issues IF installed in "program files" or "program files(x86)", this is by design to protect the executables.

The solution is simple, install MSTS in c:\msts, or as I have ALWAYS done, on a seperate disk, in my case D:, then there are NO permissions to apply.

Cheers

[Komachi]

Derek, the MSTS install isn't on my Windows HDD so..


ED: well that doens't work either actaully. There are some activities, I KNOW I have the stock for, but still says "Unknown".