I am Italian, and in italy the electric line and of copper (as I also think of other countries) but the true thread is not black as in the OR, but in the reality and green if had been oxidizing for the time, or red/orange if new, I wanted to change the texture of the cable for this motive.
But if it is not possible then I don't do anything.
you excuse my English but a program it translates for mè
It's also true in the US, all the catenary I've encountered has always been oxidized copper (i.e. green) or bronze (mainly clips and joiners, sort of a dull brown).
While I don't expect the OR team to jump right on this, the major complaint I have with MSTS catenary is that we can't tailor it to specific types. One major, unique type I'm thinking of is the New Haven RR triangular type. Mostly only those of us who are major catenary nuts will notice these details. I do recall having a conversation with one of the MSTS2 developers way back when that was still an ongoing project, about their system for creating catenary, which was nothing like the MSTS system. The way he explained it to me, it allowed different catenary profiles to be specified for a route, that would then be applied by the software to allow for differing catenary appearance, and that it was a 3D model, not just "flat" wires as in MSTS (I'm vastly simplifying it, I'm sure).
Anyway, that would be a neat feature for us electric nuts...
I am Italian, and in italy the electric line and of copper (as I also think of other countries) but the true thread is not black as in the OR, but in the reality and green if had been oxidizing for the time, or red/orange if new, I wanted to change the texture of the cable for this motive.
But if it is not possible then I don't do anything.
you excuse my English but a program it translates for mè
LOL i saw green overhead wires in railworks northeast corridor, and i thought it's a bug So it's because it's made of copper! (BTW as i know in italy still 3kv DC is the standard(where copper can have serious benefits over cheaper conductors), but on NEC is 25kv 60hz AC, and on european AC (both 16kv 16,7hz, or 25kv 50hz) wires i've never seen the traces of copper).
LOL i saw green overhead wires in railworks northeast corridor, and i thought it's a bug So it's because it's made of copper! (BTW as i know in italy still 3kv DC is the standard(where copper can have serious benefits over cheaper conductors), but on NEC is 25kv 60hz AC, and on european AC (both 16kv 16,7hz, or 25kv 50hz) wires i've never seen the traces of copper).
Unless there's been some recent change I'm unaware of, portions of the Northeast Corridor (NEC) are still 11,000V 25Hz (New York to Washington). The catenary and electrical supply infrastructure is (with some upgrading) basically what the Pennsylvania Railroad built in the 1930's and was not built with the higher 25kV "standard" in mind. Many (most?) of the components are ORIGINAL, and I've heard sources say, were evaluated as not being able to withstand the higher voltage. Also, SEPTA still uses equipment on the NEC that was constructed only for 11kV, 25Hz supply (with no changeover capability short of swapping out hardware in the shop - unlikely).
My point is, that what's out there on the NEC south of New York, is largely what the PRR put there, including the wire. And what wire did the PRR use? Copper and bronze, as I said, with bronze fittings. One of the main constituents of bronze IS copper, and that's why it typically oxidizes in a similar way. That's the way it is. Proof?
Here's a photograph I took in April, 2010 of a section of catenary at Marcus Hook, PA, on the NEC between Wilmington, DE and Philadelphia, PA. (yeah, I take pictures of catenary). I was trying to get a closeup of the catenary hanger, the vertical piece.
Note that the messenger wire (upper), the hanger, the auxiliary wire (the upper, bottom wire) and the contact wire (the bottom-most wire, where the pantographs make contact) are all that bright green patina (the correct term for oxidized copper or bronze). My understanding is that the messenger is bronze stranded wire, the auxiliary is copper (grooved) and the contact wire is bronze (also grooved, and shaped, it's not round). The two hanger clips, the messenger clip (upper) and auxiliary clip (lower) are bronze and are a light brown/gold color (I think these two clips had been replaced with newer ones, most of them are either a darker brown or green). (BTW, the two wires running at angles are in the background, one is a steel cable for supporting the catenary tower, the other one is the messenger wire for the next track) How do I know all of this? There is extensive documentation of all of this through the PRRT&HS. If anyone doubts the green color of the wire in service, I can provide literally hundreds of photos documenting it.
There are some routes which use their own catenary systems, the BERNINA being one of them and Norbert Rieger's DB-Tracks being used by Protrain and by me.
Using ACE textures for the wire their color can be modified.
For Otto, me as to do for changing the textures in msts, but I wanted to change the color of the thread standart in the OR, considering that in the reality black threads don't exist.
I want to know if a way exists, to change the texture, and even also the 3d of the threads.
But, as Otto points out, it IS possible to add wire (catenary) shapes over the tracks on a route. Then you can make the wires whatever color and shape you want.
Look for "Catenary Master" in the File Library:
Microsoft Train Simulator - Utilities MSTS Catenary Master
Name: catmas.zip Size: 2,917,651 Date: 05-13-2008 Downloads: 999
MSTS Catenary Master. A tool for adding custom catenary to your route. By S. van de Laak.
(I wonder how well Babelfish will translate all that into Italian...)
can nobody give me an answer to this question?
and really impossible, do I have some escamotages you can be found?
Your question has been answered TWICE! The answer is NO, la risposta è NO:
Originally posted by twpol
No, you cannot texture the wire, sorry.
Would you mind explaining why you would like to do this?
Originally posted by mestevet
The simple answer to your question is "No".
But, as Otto points out, it IS possible to add wire (catenary) shapes over the tracks on a route. Then you can make the wires whatever color and shape you want.
Look for "Catenary Master" in the File Library:
Microsoft Train Simulator - Utilities MSTS Catenary Master
Name: catmas.zip Size: 2,917,651 Date: 05-13-2008 Downloads: 999
MSTS Catenary Master. A tool for adding custom catenary to your route. By S. van de Laak.
(I wonder how well Babelfish will translate all that into Italian...)
Steve
And "escamotages" appears to mean "retractions" as far as I can tell, so I have no idea what "I have some retractions you can be found?" might mean. I do, however, note that "NO" is "NO" in Italian too.
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So it's because it's made of copper! (BTW as i know in italy still 3kv DC is the standard(where copper can have serious benefits over cheaper conductors), but on NEC is 25kv 60hz AC, and on european AC (both 16kv 16,7hz, or 25kv 50hz) wires i've never seen the traces of copper).
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