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  • vwsavage120
    New Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 5

    #1

    OR Diesel Smoke

    One quick question. Is there any way to sort of tone down the diesel smoke. It looks like it is a bit unrealistic. I can understand if it was this much smoke under a full load, but not all the time...
    Smoke.jpg
  • twpol
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 434
    • United Kingdom

    #2
    As should be in the release notes/associated documentation, the smoke and steam effects are not connected to the physics in this release; diesels have been hooked up a bit in development now.
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    • vwsavage120
      New Member
      • Oct 2010
      • 5

      #3
      OK, I read and understand it now. Thanks. I cant wait for OR to evolve even more, awesome work.

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      • muskokaandtahoe
        3000 Post Veteran

        • Apr 2003
        • 3003
        • Silicon Valley, CA, USA.
        • ORTS

        #4
        I noticed this post of yours and thought yeah, it's too dark right now, and I just moved on. But this week I'm also putting together a distribution package and in testing it I came to realize I had not set up the \global\textures directory properly and that I was missing the MSTS .ace files for diesel smoke. That's when I learned that OR is using Kuju's .ace files for diesel smoke.

        Somewhere, some looong time ago, I picked up a few files that are for different densities of diesel smoke, with .bat files for changing which one is the activeone. No idea where they came from but I'll guess here at TS.com. All I needed to do is change the .ace file and I got a lighter density smoke. It's still a bit too dark, but it's much better than before.
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        • vwsavage120
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          • Oct 2010
          • 5

          #5
          Are you talking about the ones from 3DTrains. http://www.3dtrains.com/downloads/misc.shtml

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          • GoGoran
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2010
            • 880

            #6
            Originally posted by vwsavage120
            Are you talking about the ones from 3DTrains. http://www.3dtrains.com/downloads/misc.shtml
            I checked them out some time ago, but I switched back to the Kuju defaults, since I was less than impressed with the 3dts ones.

            The basic problem with OR up to now is not the texture, anyway, but that the smoke is not connected to the throttle yet. In MSTS, a loco almost stops smoking at idle, and then it gets darker. It's also easily adjustable via the diesel smoke parameters in the eng files. There's a lot of work ahead for the OR team -- I wish I could help, but I got no idea of programming.
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            • muskokaandtahoe
              3000 Post Veteran

              • Apr 2003
              • 3003
              • Silicon Valley, CA, USA.
              • ORTS

              #7
              Originally posted by GoGoran
              I checked them out some time ago, but I switched back to the Kuju defaults, since I was less than impressed with the 3dts ones.

              The basic problem with OR up to now is not the texture, anyway, but that the smoke is not connected to the throttle yet.
              Throttle and diesel smoke have been connected in the version the developers use and I expect that feature will be provided in the next release. Whether OR continues to use that texture over the long term or do something else is something I cannot speak to but in the meanwhile you can change the appearance of diesel smoke by changing the texture.
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              • vwsavage120
                New Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 5

                #8
                Are the Kuju defualts the ones that come with the game? Yes OR has alot ahead of them although it came along way since the beginning.

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                • apostle282
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 112
                  • Pleasant Hill, CA

                  #9
                  Yea, Incase you didnt know Diesel West has their own version, I personally like it better than the default or 3DTrains !
                  it can be found as free download in the MSTS Extras section of ...

                  train simulator, open rails, activities, scenarios, freeware, downloads
                  Light travels faster than sound.
                  This is why some people appear bright - until you hear them speak !

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                  • MP36PH3S
                    1000 Post Veteran
                    • May 2010
                    • 1217
                    • Ann Arbor, MI

                    #10
                    3DTrain's smoke is white LOL. Hardly noticeable at even 5MPH during the day but very annoying at night especially when the smoke is coming from a cabcar. I don't know if it's possible but could OR be programmed to porject dieselsmoke effects differently?
                    Writer and Wolverine, among other things.
                    Interested in railroad stories? Check out the Fiction vault:
                    https://www.trainsim.com/vbts/showth...82#post1882582

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                    • vwsavage120
                      New Member
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 5

                      #11
                      Yeah, I stopped using the 3DTrains one because of that. I stuck with the Diesel West file for now.

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                      • Bananarama
                        5500 Post Veteran
                        • Nov 1999
                        • 5606
                        • Another Planet

                        #12
                        This is the first I've heard of any problem with the smoke.
                        Cheers!

                        Melanie - 3DTrains

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                        • MP36PH3S
                          1000 Post Veteran
                          • May 2010
                          • 1217
                          • Ann Arbor, MI

                          #13
                          Marc there's nothing wrong with it. It just shows up white in OR for some reason.
                          Writer and Wolverine, among other things.
                          Interested in railroad stories? Check out the Fiction vault:
                          https://www.trainsim.com/vbts/showth...82#post1882582

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                          • Bananarama
                            5500 Post Veteran
                            • Nov 1999
                            • 5606
                            • Another Planet

                            #14
                            Yes, I see it now. I just had a go at the latest build - yikes!

                            BTW, OR has really come a long way. This stuff is fantastic!
                            Cheers!

                            Melanie - 3DTrains

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