MONON-2 missing terrain floor with Open Rails

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  • Rick-MONON
    1500 Post Veteran
    • Feb 2008
    • 1795
    • Elizabethtown, Ky
    • ORTS

    #1

    MONON-2 missing terrain floor with Open Rails

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    MONON-2
    At Cedar Lake.
    This is the only place I have seen this.
    3 or 4 tiles have the white void effect on the ground, no terrrain.ace

    What do you want me to send you, or you can do an activity at Cedar lake on MONON-2 ver 9 to see it yourself.

    Other than that, it runs great on the Monon-2
    Rick

    http:\\mononrr.com

    MONON-2

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  • Vince
    6500 Post Veteran

    • Nov 1999
    • 6961
    • Mohave

    #2
    Test Routes Before Running ORTS

    Hi Rick,
    Have you run the full suite of Route_Riter tests?

    The Full suite:
    Check Route
    Activities/Stock
    TSUtils (ICHK)
    When you get a clean RR run and it fails in ORTS then is the time to begin asking questions.
    i.e. you have eliminated the route as a possible cause!
    Last edited by Vince; 01-16-2011, 15:34.
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    • GaryG
      1000 Post Veteran
      • Nov 1999
      • 1011
      • Vancouver, BC, Canada.

      #3
      Hi Rick

      For possible problem cause isolation, I could then fire up the route here to see if I have the same problem. This might help isolate it to ORTS, Route, O.S., etc,.

      The Lat/Lon would be helpful for those who don't have a clue where Cedar Lake is located (like me for instance) or even better, the failing activity with just default equipment.

      GaryG

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      • kraus
        1000 Post Veteran

        • Jan 2001
        • 1086
        • Madison, Wisconsin
        • General

        #4
        The missing terrain is a known limitation of Open Rails. Most tiles are split into 2km by 2km. When a tile has not been fully split but is larger then that tile will not be shown.

        Each time a tile is split four bits are added to the tile name. The tiles that start with an underscore such as _04ee6ba.t have not been fully split. The attached picture from Route Geography Creator shows four tiles that have not been fully split. World file w-011527+014394.w which includes Cedar Lake is in tile _04ee95c.

        The second picture shows the large tiles to the right of the blue line are four times the size of standard tiles that have been fully split.
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        Last edited by kraus; 01-17-2011, 11:19. Reason: add picture

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        • Rick-MONON
          1500 Post Veteran
          • Feb 2008
          • 1795
          • Elizabethtown, Ky
          • ORTS

          #5
          Thanks

          So, should I do anything about it, or just leave it till the OR team addresses issues like this?

          And if I do change it, will it effect anything that is there now?
          Rick

          http:\\mononrr.com

          MONON-2

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          • longiron
            1000 Post Veteran and Moderator

            • Jan 2007
            • 1453
            • Just south of NYC

            #6
            Rick,
            Added to the bug list, but in all honesty I don't know that OR team will address in the near term. We have a lot on our plate.
            chrisvw
            Chris
            "True rail fans have two favorite railroads. The B&O and one other."

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            • kraus
              1000 Post Veteran

              • Jan 2001
              • 1086
              • Madison, Wisconsin
              • General

              #7
              To alter the route for the current version of Open Rails new tiles need to be created for each of the four large tiles.

              1. In Route Geography Creator, remove the large tiles from the quad-tree by right click and select Toggle Populated State to remove the mark that indicates the tile is populated.
              2. Create the new tiles by right click and select Split Tiles.
              4. For each of the four new tiles, right click and select Toggle Populated State that will mark the new tile as populated.
              5. Select Save Quad-Tree from the File menu.
              6. Select Generate Flagged Tiles from the Edit menu.

              The new tiles will then need to have their height set with the source DEMs using DEMEX and textures applied. No changes are needed to the track or road databases or the objects placed in world files.

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              • Rick-MONON
                1500 Post Veteran
                • Feb 2008
                • 1795
                • Elizabethtown, Ky
                • ORTS

                #8
                Yes, that is correct, thanks...

                But then I need to import the Geography from the USGS again to those tiles --- WITHOUT --- effecting ALL the other tiles.

                Next issue. When importing Geography data, which files in which folders are affected?????

                I will need to back them up and re-apply the files not needed to be chaged........
                Rick

                http:\\mononrr.com

                MONON-2

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                • Rick-MONON
                  1500 Post Veteran
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 1795
                  • Elizabethtown, Ky
                  • ORTS

                  #9
                  I corrected the tiles by sub tiling them and added the dem data back, must still redo 4 major areas now with mosaic and terrain aligning, oh well.

                  But you can take this issue off the OR bug list if you want to. OR shows the terrain correctly now since all the tiles are sub tiled.
                  Rick

                  http:\\mononrr.com

                  MONON-2

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